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dealing with witnesses to paranormal phenomena or close encounter witnesses in the ufological

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phenomenon. I enjoy that work and I do get a rewarding sense that something is happening

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here and maybe a little by little we're gleaning little bits of information here and there

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and it will contribute to the knowledge about this whole field. And if that were all I had

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to do I would be happy and many of my colleagues the same if we could just concentrate on the

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job we're supposed to be doing which is doing research and investigation and counselling

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therapy things if required. I find the field nowadays more and more beset by infighting,

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bickering, jealousies, downright nastiness, lies, gossiping, rumour-mongering, trashing

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other people's research. Terrible lack of cooperation between individuals and groups.

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And you know in this field we get so much flat from outside why do we need to be doing

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this to each other? I mean we should all be pulling together and I really despair sometimes

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of where ufology, vis-a-vis the ufologists are going. Anybody nowadays can say he's

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the ufologist, anybody. You don't, because there is no accredited body that regulates

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this kind of thing. You have lots of people coming in who don't know anything about the

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subject. They've watched the X-Files, they've read all the magazines on the newsstands now,

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they think they're experts. The days of the academic ufologists like Heineck and Vallée

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are passing, I'm sad to say, I'm very sad to say that because I think, I mean we are

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on the fringes of science here, we're dealing with something, today's magic will be tomorrow's

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science and you have to have a training, you have to have a logical mind, you have to have

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an objectivity and you have to have a level, your subject if you're really going to find

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out what's going on here, you have to be dedicated to it and so many people just aren't. They

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come into this, they cause trouble and they fall by the wayside and then it's somebody

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else and somebody else and somebody else and they have no basic training. I mean, well

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that's just my point of view, I think we've got the wrong people involved in ufology.

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When I saw them taking my daughter out of the room, the most got off the link because

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they're in such control of you, you can't do anything, you're watching a kidnapper

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child. A terrifying nocturnal encounter, abductees who are unable to resist the commands of

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extraterrestrial beings. Are people really being abducted by alien visitors or is this

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a case of imagination run amok? Hello, I'm Tim White. On this sighting special report,

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we'll try to answer that question and determine if some of us have already made contact.

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In his sightings, for 20 years, four friends have searched for an answer. What really happened

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in a remote main wilderness? If I didn't cooperate with these things, I was going to be dead.

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A hard working Missouri family believes that they have been part of an extraterrestrial

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experiment. I know what I've seen and I know what I've felt and I know what's happened

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to me. In his sightings exclusive, one family member confronts his past for the first time.

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What do you feel at this point? Scared.

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Over entire adult life, a teacher from Philadelphia has tried to cope with horrifying memories.

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I was told to disrobe and I was embarrassed. I didn't want to undress and yet I couldn't

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stop. Is this the product of an imagination out of control? Simply a dream, a brain disorder

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or could it be the unthinkable? Could alien abduction be a reality? People often ask me

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why are you so interested in this and my usual response to that is why are you not interested

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in this? It's a sighting's in depth and beyond special, the secrets of alien abduction.

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There is a groundswell of the most bizarre kind. Thousands, perhaps tens of thousands

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of people worldwide who all believe that they have been abducted by aliens. For the abductees

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the experience is real. A terrifying nightmare come true. Vivid, a terrifying nightmare.

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The reality is that they have been abducted by aliens. They have been abducted by aliens.

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For the abductees the experience is real. A terrifying nightmare come true. Vivid, tangible,

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traumatic. But can this really be happening? This is terror. You're being kidnapped. You're

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old-staring to happen. I hate what they do to me. I hate what they do to my mind. I hate

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what they do to my body. This is not something I would wish on anybody. It is the compelling

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and consistent narrative of abductees worldwide, say researchers, that is the essential proof

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that alien abduction is a reality. And it is also what led Indiana University folklorist

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Thomas Bullock to conduct a 20-year academic study of the phenomenon. When I began studying

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abductions I expected these cases to turn out to be some kind of psychological phenomenon.

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Possibly hoaxes, but certainly nothing more serious than that. There was something really

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peculiar here. I kept seeing a consistency in these things that I didn't expect to see.

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And the people seemed so sincere and so normal that it became very difficult to attribute

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these reports to anything other than a genuine experience. And says Dr. Bullard, the abduction

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phenomenon is nothing new. The concept of being abducted by some strange beings, column

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supernatural beings if you will, has been with the human species from its beginnings.

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Folklore is full of cases where people are kidnapped by fairies and carried off to a

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fairyland that is in some ways very much like the interior of a UFO or the other world

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that people see when they're taken on a UFO otherworldly journal. They lose a period of

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time very similar to the stories of UFO abductions. And representations of the classic alien type,

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the extraterrestrial known as the gray, and the classic spaceship saucer shape show up

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throughout recorded history. And now at the turn of the 21st century, the images and icons

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continue. But the people who are describing these beings from another world are no longer

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just artists and storytellers. They are real people who insist that the visitations are

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happening to them. It just was inconceivable to me that people were being scooped up by

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UFOs and having these strange medical procedures performed on them.

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CDB Brian is a celebrated journalist, author of Friendly Fire, the National Geographic

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Society and Close Encounters of the Fourth Kind.

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Brian first became interested in the abduction phenomenon in 1991 when he heard that a conference

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on alien abduction was being held within the hallowed halls of MIT.

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It sounded to me like a perfect New Yorker piece of little green man at MIT. I didn't

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for a minute take it seriously. But in the course of the three, four days the conference

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took, I moved more and more towards accepting that there might be a phenomenon here that

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is unexplained and less and less away from the fact that they're all stark-waving mad.

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These people were quite convincing.

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But because these abduction scenarios are so bizarre, so unbelievable, it's no wonder

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that the phenomenon has become fair game for comics, cynics and skeptics.

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In fact, as many people as say have been kidnapped by aliens, have been, it's 3.7 million Americans.

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I don't know about you, but if I were a proctologist, one rectal examination is more than enough

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to learn everything you need to know about the human anatomy. But these aliens are either

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perverts or it's not happening.

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There are a lot of people who agree with Harlan Ellison's assessment, but ask yourself, how

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much do you really know about the alien abduction phenomenon? How did it start? Who's likely

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to believe they've been taken? I'd bunch of to say that no matter what you think you

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know. You don't know the whole story.

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For many UFO researchers, one story has stood the test of time and stands out as the most

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compelling evidence to date that the abduction phenomenon is real. It is the saga of four

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friends who are all participants in the most well-documented alien abduction case in history.

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They're known as the Allagash Four. Their story begins in 1976, when these four men,

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all young art college students, ventured into Northern Maine for a camping trip.

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We are in the process of taking an 11-day canoe trip through an interlocking system of

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lakes and a river called the Allagash Wilderness Waterway.

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This was the fourth night of our canoe leg of the trip. After setting up camp, we built

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a large fire to act as like a lighthouse beacon.

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Well we got about five minutes out into the lake and Chuck Rack saw something over my

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shoulder. I had this sensation that someone was staring at me over my right shoulder.

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So I turned and I noticed this very bright object up in the sky and I immediately went

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into this very euphoric kind of shock. It was instantly apparent to me that this was

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something very, very unusual. I didn't know what it was, but it was a

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sphere that was traveling at the tops of the trees coming directly toward us.

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But I never took my eyes off this thing. It was a changing color from a bright yellow

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white to streaks of green to streaks of red in such a manner that you couldn't tell what

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where one color began and the other left off. And it had this strange quality to it.

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A pulsed kind of, but it wasn't a regular pulse. It was just kind of moving, boiling

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or something. It is absolute dead silence. So you can hear

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a person whisper from a quarter mile away and this thing made no sound.

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When it was about directly abreast from us, less than a hundred yards away, I picked up

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a flashlight and I pushed the button to turn the lamp on and flashed at the sphere as though

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I were using a semaphore. He blinked at the flashlight at it a few times

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and as soon as he did that, this thing started moving right towards us. It threw this beam

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out right onto our canoe. We were in a 16-foot aluminum canoe which lit up in the middle of

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the blackness like a roaming candle. And when it did that, my friends completely panicked

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and started paddling for shore. And as I'm paddling out, I'm looking over my shoulder at this thing

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coming and it's getting closer and closer and closer and I'm thinking, there's no way we're

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going to outrun this thing. When we did get back to shore, which seemed like almost an instant later,

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we turned and saw the sphere was now hovering about 40 feet or so above the water's surface,

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close enough to us that we felt that we could have thrown an object at it and struck it.

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And then all of a sudden it winked out, or at least it appeared to wink out. It was as if

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the light imploded in on itself. And at first we thought it just completely vanished.

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And then a second later, we saw this thing taking off.

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You would think we'd be very excited about this thing and very animated, but instead we seem to be

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in some sort of almost synambulistic shock. I felt days, I remember, just drained of all my energy.

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And I remember I was just sitting here with my head on my hands on the table

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and Charlie Foltz was over by the fire poking around at the fire and he said, hey, what about the fire?

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I noticed that the fire was extinguished. It was nothing but embers.

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We couldn't understand how the fire burned out so quickly. My reaction was, the hell with the fire,

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let's go to bed. But the fire that should have been roaring was very significant.

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Because it was verification that a period of time had passed that the Allagash 4 could not

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account for. It was what abduction researchers call missing time. In fact, what happened in the

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Allagash wilderness in 1976 is typical of how nearly every abduction experience begins.

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There is a strange UFO, some form of missing time, and initially no conscious memory of the actual

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abduction. Most people have had very few truly unusual things happen to them that they could

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not explain. Most people do not see balls of light that they can't explain. Most people don't see small

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beings standing around their bed or in their couch. Most people don't have odd missing time

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experiences of two, three, or four hours, which they cannot account for that. That normally does

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not happen to people. But for abductees, they have these experiences often. They have a lifetime of

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them. The number of people I'm working with really includes a range of everything you can imagine.

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I've worked with everything from a farmer, a NASA research scientist with a PhD degree,

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a colonel in the Army. I've had eight psychiatrists come to me about their own experiences,

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just folks, just plain people. There is absolutely no pattern to the socioeconomic

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scale. There's no split. The UFO abduction phenomenon appears to be worldwide quite early. There were

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cases coming out of South America, out of Britain in particular. The numbers of cases

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have been growing almost exponentially. When I did my study in 1987, I found

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approximately 300 cases in the literature. Updating that to about 1992, an additional 500 have appeared.

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So I would say the number is certainly within the thousands, probably a great deal more.

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How does it begin for so many thousands of people? Do they just wake up one day and say,

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I'm an abductee? Well, of course not. There has to be an incident, or as in the case you're about to

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see, a series of strange and inexplicable events that lead the abductee to question reality in a

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profound way. For the Alicache 4, it was a light in the wilderness then missing time. For the

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Arons family, who live in West Plains, Missouri, the defining moment also involved a light. But

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this one was not in the wilderness. It was invading their bedroom.

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I certainly have nothing to gain by coming forward and saying I'm an abductee. In fact,

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I have more to lose, I think, than I have to gain by it.

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It's an absolutely real experience of my life and there is nobody going to be able to make me

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change my mind. I know what I've seen and I know what I've felt and I know what's happened to me.

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Looking back, 1976 was the year the world turned upside down for Dan and Joyce Arons.

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They were just starting out. Their son, Danny, was three. Baby Heather had just turned one.

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Things were pretty carefree back then until one crisp fall night.

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Dan and Joyce had just gone to bed but insist that they were still fully awake when they shared a

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terrifying experience. I've seen this red light above the window and I thought there was a fire

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outside and I'm trying to scream at my wife and nothing was coming out.

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Whether it was fear or some other unnatural force that had paralyzed Dan,

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the strangest part was that Joyce was paralyzed too.

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I was laying on my right side and I felt different. I couldn't feel my body.

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I was paralyzed. The only thing that I could move was my eyes. I couldn't speak.

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I was in my head screaming for Dan to help me because I thought something was really wrong with

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me. I was just paralyzed. Then, as suddenly as it had come, the light and the paralysis were gone.

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As soon as the light disappeared, I was able to move again and I opened the curtain and I looked

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outside and I said what the hell was that? And what surprised me was Joyce that I don't know.

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And we both just sat straight up in the bed and said what the hell was that?

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And Heather was in her crib just standing there and her eyes were huge.

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I didn't know what had happened but we just held each other and felt asleep.

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What was odd when that all happened was we went to sleep and never talked about it again.

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In fact, for most abductees, including Dan and Joyce Arendt's and the Allagash Four,

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it is usually years before they make any connection at all between the trigger event

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and the possibility that they may have been abducted.

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So how does a person go from just seeing a UFO or having missing time to becoming an abductee?

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In order to understand that epiphany, it's important to first take a look back

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at how the entire abduction phenomenon became part of our mass consciousness.

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September 19th 1961, 10 p.m. While traveling south on Brute 3 in New Hampshire,

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something happened to Betty and Barney Hill, something so traumatic the Hills claimed that

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it would take several years and a hypnosis session in 1963 to trigger memories of what had

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really happened to them that night. In this rarely seen British documentary, the Hills offered

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shocking details of their experience. We went on board. First, they took Barney into one room

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and I went into a second room. In this room, they did what I would call a fairly simple

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physical examination. Also, there was another examination where they tried to insert an instrument,

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needle-like instrument, just below my navel. And this caused pain. The leader, when I call the leader,

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put his hand out over my eyes. The pain went away. This was the birth of a new phenomenon.

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The number of cases that were recorded through the rest of the 1960s were very few. In 1975,

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Travis Walton was made national headlines by being grabbed up by a UFO and disappearing for five days.

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It was only after that that the reports became rather commonly known.

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In 1987, abduction researcher, Bud Hopkins, published Intruders and also coined the term

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Missing Time. Also in 1987, the publication of Communion, the first book about abduction,

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to make the New York Times bestseller list and sell over a million copies.

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I think I had a moral obligation to write Communion, an overwhelming moral obligation,

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because I'm a communicator and a writer and this happened to me. It's happening to a lot of other

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people and it's being very messed up and misrepresented and those people are suffering. And I think I have an obligation to do that.

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Then, in 1994, a book written by this man, Dr. John Mack, brought new respect to the abduction phenomenon.

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Abduction did become a bestseller, but Dr. Mack was already a Pulitzer Prize-winning Harvard psychiatrist

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and many people were puzzled as to why he would have written a book so damaging to his reputation,

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at least among his esteemed Ivy League colleagues. Did he really believe people were being abducted?

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I had very little involvement in the UFO phenomenon before I began to see these cases.

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What drew me into this was the notion that people of otherwise sound mind, appropriately

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self-critical, were describing experiences, but for the fact that they're not possible

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altogether real, that meant to me that there's something new to be learned here. This is interesting.

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Sightings continue.

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The importance of books like Abduction, the New York Times, and the New York Times,

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like Abduction, the Intruders, and Communion can't be underestimated. In fact, in each of the cases

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we examined on this program, it was Communion that was the turning point that transformed a weird event

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from the past into the first signs of the abduction experience.

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I remember seeing the ceiling rushing towards me. I was absolutely terrified. I had this feeling

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that whatever was happening, if I left this room, I was never coming back again.

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Jim's nightmares began in 1980, four years after the UFO sighting in the Allagash wilderness,

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and unbeknownst to him, his twin brother Jack was having the same dreams.

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I was having nightmares of being on a table in a brightly lit room with inhuman creatures

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hovering around me, touching me, scaring me. I remember being very frightened by it,

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and waking up in a cold sweat, screaming, waking up, screaming, that kind of thing.

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At the time when the twin brothers started having their terrifying nightmares,

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Jim was being treated for a seizure disorder. Jim's doctors admitted him to the hospital

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for brainwave testing, but no conclusive results were reported, and no one could find a physiological

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explanation for Jim's horrific nightmares. But while he was hospitalized, Jim was given a book

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left by a patient. The book was Communion.

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I became very upset reading this book. I mean, this touched me in a way that was visceral,

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but there was something about the emotion that he was describing in the book that was exactly the

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way I felt when I would have these nightmares. It was actually one of his medical doctors who

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first suggested that Jim might find help by working with an abduction therapist.

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When Jim approached me and told me that he was an identical twin and that he and his brother and

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two others had been involved, four different witnesses, and that they were all available for

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interview if I wanted to, and that he was referred to me by a professional medical doctor who

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took an interest in the case, I felt that I should look into it.

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And like Jim Weiner, Dan and Joyce Arons discovered that they were not the only members of their

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family to be invaded by bizarre nocturnal events. Heather, who was only one on the night of the

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red light incident, is now 22. Ever since I was a little kid, there was a recurring nightmare

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that I had. There was this gigantic monster that I can't really explain because the dream had this

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dark focus to it, but I remembered looking into this eye and seeing my own reflection.

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This is a picture of the monster that Heather drew when she was 11 years old,

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before her family even knew what alien abduction was, and before the publication of communion.

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When Heather first came up to talk about it, we didn't really understand what it was that she

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was talking about, and therefore we didn't believe her. I didn't know what was going on,

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so how could I talk to her? It was just, you know, a little kid's imagination running wild.

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And ever since the night of the red light incident, the Arons believe that their son,

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Danny, has also been giving signs. I truly believe that something happened back in 1976 when I was

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three years old. Blood for myself, I don't know. When he was younger, it was really strange. You'd

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wake up in the morning and just have to just really kind of hunt for him, you know, as to find

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him, because he'd be off in another room in the house somewhere, in a closet, or under a chair,

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under a table. So it was very strange. It's like he was hiding from something, but never did know

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what at that time. So is it all just a dream? Did the abductors need to catch you alone under

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the cover of darkness, or could the abduction phenomenon be as simple as a sleep disorder?

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A little kid has a nightmare. They run into their mom's room. They say,

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mommy, mommy, a monster's trying to get me. A little kid can watch a television show and

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be so terrified of the monster, they run out of the house. These boundaries began to form,

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and by the time we're in school, we know that that's a TV, that's a dream. This is real. But for

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some of us, that never happens. For some of us, we never can tell. Was that a dream? Did it really

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happen? Was I awake? Was I sleeping? William Cohn is a clinical psychologist who helps people cope

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with abduction memories. His critics call him a deprogrammer. What would it take to convince you

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that at least some abductees have an experience that goes beyond their own imagination?

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I don't have any problem with believing that people have had paranormal experiences, maybe

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have been abducted by aliens. I don't think that's out of the realm of possibility. I am not trying

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to say that this doesn't exist. What I do believe is that the majority of the people are mistaken,

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they're misled, they're misinformed, and sometimes damaged by misinformed therapists.

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The study of sleep disorders reveals intriguing connections to the abduction phenomenon.

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In particular, researchers believe that two conditions may actually trigger a person's journey

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into the abduction experience. The conditions are known as hypnagogic and hypnopompic sleep.

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When the hypnagogic or hypnopompic event is occurring, it really is an abnormal state. It's

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an aberration. It's a superimposition of a part of dreaming sleep onto conscious wakefulness.

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Those are states that normally don't coexist. It's a boundary violation in a way. It's a part

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of dreaming sleep leaking through into consciousness in a way that we don't ordinarily experience.

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Because of that, we experience it as something very strange, very unreal.

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Dr. Milt Ehrman is a clinical professor of psychiatry at the University of California

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San Diego School of Medicine and president of a sleep disorder treatment and research group.

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Dr. Ehrman has found that many experiences reported by abductees are also reported by

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people seeking treatment for sleep disorders. There are some parallels between some of what

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is reported in alien abduction experiences and some disorders such as the hypnopompic

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and hypnagogic hallucinations. Those would include the paralysis at times, a sense of

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of an intrusion or even a probing of a body cavity, the sense of having been elsewhere and

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returning to one's bed. I certainly can't say with assurance that it explains all the events,

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but it is one way of understanding many of the elements that are present and it certainly

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provides an explanation for at least some of these episodes which have occurred.

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And sleep paralysis during the hypnagogic and hypnopompic states

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is also an influential factor in the abduction phenomenon, says Dr. Cohn.

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Sleep paralysis is a phenomenon of waking up usually early in the morning or just before

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falling asleep, finding yourself completely unable to move. Usually wide awake eyes can move,

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but nothing else. Very often into the room comes some sort of unusual being. Sometimes they

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float into the room, sometimes they walk into the room. It's not uncommon for one of them to

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crawl onto the bed or onto your chest and that is called in some cultures the old hag phenomenon.

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In the errands case, Dr. Erman offers this possible explanation. In trying to understand

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how two people could share an experience of this sort, I think there are several ways to

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understand it. The first is that we often do develop a somewhat synchronized sleep pattern

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with a bed partner related to movement, related to the normal timing of events and so it certainly

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is possible that the two of them could have been in a REM state, a dreaming state at the same time

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in which they would have been paralyzed. And in the case of the Wiener Brothers shared nightmares,

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the fact that they are identical twins may play a role. I would say that if identical twins have

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had similar experiences, have been in similar environments, they're probably more likely,

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almost certainly more likely than two other individuals who have shared the same experience

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to have dreams that would reflect the experience in a similar, if not identical way.

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But the key thing here is that a huge number of objections don't take place in the person's

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sleep. It takes place in the person who's driving somewhere or in the company of other people

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or watching television or coming home from work or at a picnic or whatever it is and the person

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is not asleep or even tired. And a simple case of synchronized dreaming certainly does not explain

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what happened to Dan Arons in 1990, 16 years after the red light incident. One day,

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he called me at work and I had to take him to the hospital. My heart was pounding, I couldn't breathe,

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you know, and I thought I had a heart attack. An emergency room doctor assured Dan that he

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wasn't having a heart attack, but what was happening wasn't so clear. There were several

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positions that I went to, had different ideas as to what was going on. One thought it was panic

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attacks, stress, one thought it was an inner ear infection. He couldn't do anything, he couldn't

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work, he stayed home, he couldn't leave the house. At that time I realized that well maybe there was

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something, you know, maybe not physically wrong with me so much as there's something mentally

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wrong with me or something in the back of my mind maybe that's just trying to come out.

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What that something was seemed to come out one night while Dan was watching TV.

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A movie came on that had a scene in it where this little alien peeked around from behind a doorway.

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I just burst into tears when I'd seen these piercing eyes staring out behind that door.

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A very split second in my mind, I got more or less a flashback of what had happened back in 1976.

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He was absolutely hysterical, crying,

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and I didn't understand what it was. I didn't understand why he was like this.

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With no real answers from the mainstream medical community,

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Dan and Joyce had to wonder if the movie, Dan's illness, and the red light incident were all somehow

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related. The conventional doctors really weren't doing anything for me. It wasn't until about a week

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after I've watched Communion that I was watching a television program that John Carpenter was on.

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I became interested in dealing with people claiming abductions and this whole phenomenon,

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dealing with UFOs, when I realized they were starting to utilize psychiatric professionals

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who had been trained in hypnosis. But Hopkins and some others began referring cases to me

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at the rate of about two per month. Well, that's added up to about 120 over the last nine years.

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The first time I spoke to him on the phone describing what had happened to me, the panic attacks

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and everything, he said there's a lot of other possibilities other than alien abductions,

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which was like clear at the back of the list, you know. But he was willing to talk to me and

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he asked me if I wanted to go through a hypnosis session and I agreed to it.

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But other possibilities melted away after Dan's first hypnosis session.

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He's showing me something.

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All right, take a good look.

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Look. This metal looks like a little spade. It's gonna hurt. Is that what you think? Is that what you feel?

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You better dance with me. I really didn't want to tell anybody whatsoever. My own family,

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I didn't want to tell. I wouldn't even discuss it with Joyce. But after Dan returned from his

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second hypnosis session, that all changed. It wasn't too long after the second session that

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Joyce started remembering. The conscious memories just came. I mean, they just came back. There

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wasn't anything that I could do to stop them from coming back. And after I had those, it was whenever

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I went to see John myself. I began working with both of them and found that they had shared an

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experience which was indeed traumatic and indeed bizarre at the same time. As I began to realize

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that they were sharing this experience, there was no doubt in my mind it had to be a real event,

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causing such emotion. And by dealing with it, causing such relief. After many independent

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regression sessions, Dan and Joyce have come to the realization that the red light incident was

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their first shared abduction experience. Under hypnosis, I actually seen what had happened.

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To us that night. I was cowering in the corner of the bed, scared to death. There was a little

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being at the foot of the bed. And there was one with my wife. And there was one at the crib at

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the end of the bed with my daughter. There were three of them. And one of them touched my arm.

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And I set up on the bed. I watched him take Heather. When they were taking her, the feeling that I had

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was so overwhelming as far as the helpless feeling that I had that I just couldn't hardly,

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couldn't hardly stand it. That was, the most, got off the plane.

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Because they're in such control of you, you can't do anything. You're walking, I can never,

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can never, your child.

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And you can't do anything and you're standing there.

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If you've had an experience of beings coming in your room, you had some missing time that you can't

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explain. You've had a mark on your body that you don't know where it came from. You see something on

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a television show that says people are being abducted. You call up an abduction researcher. By the time you

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walk in that door, before anything has been spoken, you're already predisposed to believe that that's

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what's going on. And you're not going to be able to see it. You're not going to be able to see it.

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You're not going to be able to see it. You're not going to be able to see it.

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You're not going to be able to see it. You're not going to be able to see it.

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And five years after Dan and Joyce began their regression sessions,

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Heather finally agreed to undergo hypnosis as well.

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I really wasn't sure if, if hypnosis was real or, or anything.

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But when I was under hypnosis, it just, memories and, and flashes just were there.

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I found out that one of the beings had come and taken me out of my room. I was on board something.

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This being asked me if, if I wanted to play. And I kept telling him no, that, that I didn't want to

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and that I wanted to go home.

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What Dan and Joyce remembered, they kept very quiet, very secret, made very special effort not to

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share or talk about any such thing with their, with their kids because they knew that their

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kids might have had these experiences and they did not want to contaminate their, their thoughts about it.

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And in fact, Danny, who was three at the time of the red light incident,

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did not believe that he was part of his family's abduction experience when a sightings crew shot

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this video. But as you will see later, that too has changed.

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I think people believe what's happened. They've had some kind of bizarre experience. They want an

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explanation for it. When they get one, they're happy to have it. What happens with all these

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phenomena is you have this tremendous leap from something that you can't explain to a hugely

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complicated scenario about aliens. If, if I was abducted by aliens, then so be it. You know,

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I did have something that I could at least grasp onto and say, okay, this is what happened. This

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is what caused these panic attacks. And I'm just going to have to deal with it the rest of my life.

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They can be totally sincere and totally genuine, without intending to deceive.

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Elaine Showalter is a professor of humanities at Princeton University and an historian of

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psychiatry who writes about alien abduction in histories, hysterical epidemics in the

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modern media. Certainly you get some people who from early childhood were very fantasy prone.

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You find people who are susceptible to all kinds of religious extremism. You find people with a

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lot of sexual anxiety. But I think under the right circumstances, probably almost any of us could

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be vulnerable to these delusions as I see them. But these are not delusions, say abduction researchers.

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When I started looking into these reports I was getting, I began to notice patterns. The first

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thing I discovered was that there were physical marks, wounds, scars of certain types that seemed

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to turn up in conjunction with these experiences because the people remembered the thing having

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been inflicted. Up until that point, nobody was aware that there were any physical marks on the

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body afterwards on the individual. These physical marks that abductees claim appear mysteriously

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after an abduction experience fall roughly into three categories. There are scoop marks,

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puncture marks, and patterned wounds. I do try to take the phenomenon seriously and I do think

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that people are sincere. I don't think we have people who are faking here but the scars and the

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material evidence is so ridiculous. Most debunkers or skeptics just don't want to dive into this

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subject on a serious or scholarly level and it's much more comfortable. It's much easier for them

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to believe it's just not happening. For the Aaron's family the road to realization began with

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strange nighttime visions. In the Allagash Abduction, Jim and Jack's identical nightmares. But what

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about the other two of the Allagash four, Charlie Fulton, Chuck Rack? Were they dreaming two? Well,

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in fact they were not. But other things were happening in their lives that just didn't have a

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simple explanation and would eventually lead all four to undergo the same kind of regression therapy

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that had opened up the abduction experience for the Aaron's family.

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I thought that I wanted to be a school teacher. I figured that was most practical application

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for me. However, when we came back that year I changed my focus and became very interested in

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science and in medicine. As an artist I think I was very self-centered. I was concerned about my art

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but after that experience I began to think there's more to life than just hawking art. There's

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something else that someone can do, something more useful in science for example. So I took up

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science. I figured this is useful stuff. The things I make at work go to Mars. Jack is now working in

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science full-time as part of a team which manufactures lenses for the space program. Well at the time I

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was doing a very traditional pottery. I was a clay worker years ago and immediately after the Allagash

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event instead of making simple cups and plates and saucers and pitchers I started building these

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weird things that I called guardians and these ideas just flooded into my head. It was all there

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and it just came flooding into my head. Four men all changed on a deep level by a bizarre UFO encounter

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but no conscious memories of abduction. Raymond Fowler believed that something was keeping these

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memories from emerging and asked the Allagash for to undergo independent regression sessions

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with Hypnotherapist Tony Constantino. After we had finished our investigation with these four abductees

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we met all together at my home and had a general discussion of the things that were uncovered

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and I can tell you honestly for the first time I felt abject terror.

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That kind of terror is something that's very familiar to Terry Matthews. Like the Arons and the

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Allagash for her experience began with an inexplicable nighttime event and the realization that the

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only logical explanation was that she too was an abductee. I felt like if I stopped the car I was going to die.

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It was 1970 nearly 30 years ago and Terry Matthews was living in Paris, Illinois when her abduction

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story begins. It was the most ordinary of days but this trip so long ago would change her life forever.

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I remember looking out the car window and seeing the sun going down to my right and it made everything

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red and green all the colors were extremely vibrant.

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And the next thing I knew I was in the middle of a horrible rainstorm. It was black out so dark and

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rainy that I couldn't see the front of my car and the car was being pulled off the road. So I

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butted the wheels up against the berm of the road. It's a two-lane road out there and I was terrified.

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The next thing I knew the rain was almost stopping and I didn't notice what time it was. When I got home

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I walked in the door and my husband was yelling at me, it's 9.45 where have you been? And I was

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very confused and of course feeling like I had lost my mind. I mean here I was you know two hours to

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over two hours missing and didn't know why. Since that first experience Terry Matthews has collected

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conscious memories of many other incomprehensible occurrences. Her journal is filled with horrifying

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nightmares, missing time, inexplicable scars and UFO sightings. Terry always suspected that she might

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be an abductee but didn't realize that the night of the freak storm was her link to the

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abduction experience until she contacted abduction expert David Jacobs. Most abductees who come to

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me have what I call an epiphonic event. They have something that is a major triggering event,

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something that happened that they remember and they know and they want to find out what it was.

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And Terry had this event where she felt she was caught in a tornado of all things for a couple

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of hours. Once I contacted him he was very very careful to warn me that if I looked at this it

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would change my life forever. Terry says she felt compelled to pursue the truth and agreed to a series

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of hypnosis sessions. The sessions started to unravel the mysteries that surrounded that drive

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30 years ago. Under hypnosis in research I discovered that it was an abduction. All I knew

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was that I was being pulled off the road and I didn't understand why. Under hypnosis when I

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looked at this event I stopped the car, I looked over and I saw this huge craft hanging over both

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sides of the road just sitting there. And I was watching this thing. It was kind of a blunt silver

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gray and I saw six beings coming near the car coming toward me. They were gray, large black eyes.

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I was just stunned. I was panicked and I was screaming inside my head

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because I wanted to get away but I couldn't scream out loud. It was very frightening, I was terrified.

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They took me into a room. I was told to disrobe and I was embarrassed. I didn't want to undress

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and yet I couldn't stop. They told me to take my wedding rings off, which I did.

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And then they led me to a table and laid me down. I remember them telling me that I was either

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going to have a baby or that I was pregnant. I wasn't quite sure but what they had done was remove

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a fetus from me and implanted another, which was really emotionally hard for me.

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Albumized people have fetuses implanted in them, they have fetuses removed from them,

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and so the purposes of it we feel are the production and manufacture of these hybrid babies,

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these hybrid beings. They've gone in with needles through my abdomen, they have gone in

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through the vagina and taken out small what look like fetuses that couldn't possibly survive.

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More and more memories of her past abductions resurfaced through hypnosis.

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Terry became so terrified that for a year and a half she videotaped herself every night while

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she was sleeping. She believes that this practice has kept more abductions from occurring,

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but dealing with the past is an ongoing process. I have witnessed all of my children at different

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times being abducted. I can see my daughter being violated, I can see my sons being led,

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knowing what they're going to have to endure. It is exceedingly traumatic.

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This is a phenomenon that is intergenerational, that is to say if the mother or the father

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were abducted the children are probably going to be abductees, what we can tell,

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and so we get families of abductees and that is the rule as opposed to the exception.

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Terry Matthews recalled memories of her terrifying abduction experiences because of her

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sessions with therapist David Jacobs, the errands through John Carpenter, the oligarch four through

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ufologist Ray Fowler and hypnotherapist Tony Constantino. Abduction therapy, it's a common

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denominator that raises significant credibility issues.

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If you look at the abductees as a group, if you would like to ask

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do these people all have something in common, do they all have the same sort of experience,

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the answer in my opinion is that depends on which therapist you go to. The crazier the narrative,

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the more impressive the expert seems to be some kind of inverse relation so that when you get to

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alien abduction you've got some of the most impressive experts in the world and you have people

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like Dr. John Mack at Harvard, Pulitzer Prize winner, respected scientist. If you look at John's

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background and if you read the things that John wrote before he was involved in abductions, John

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has a background of Eastern beliefs, metaphysics. He believes that abductions are in the netherworld

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between reality and fantasy. He will say is it real, is it imagination, do we have to make that

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distinction? Well I do, I have to know what's real and what's not. John does not have a problem with

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that. But what exactly does John Mack believe? It was a question I took to Cambridge in search of

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an answer from the man himself. You're not an abductee yourself. I've not had these experiences.

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Is it an experience that you would be open to if it were something you could invite in?

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Well you know Tim, I have no stake in this. I mean I'm not trying to work out some experiences of

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my own. I'm struck by the clinical power of this thing. Dr. Mack, some people would believe that you

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have staked your career on the difference between dreams and memory and what the abduction experience

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really is. Is the line that clear to you? A great proportion of the material that comes to me from

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the cases I work with is consciously recalled memory. When you ask a person who tells you

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that this is a dream to go through what happened that night, in most cases there'll be a point in

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that sequence where the experiencer will realize they were not asleep. At that point the person will

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start to get distressed. The lipple, quiver, tears will roll down their cheeks because at that moment

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they realized that what they had held as a dream was not a dream. Any explanation of this phenomenon

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has to take in to account several things. The absence of an apparent psychiatric illness,

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the presence of marks on people's bodies after it has occurred, the tight association with UFOs,

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but also the consistency of these accounts throughout this country and now increasingly

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throughout the world among many different cultures. Dr. Mack, you have mentioned that other people have

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the alien abduction phenomenon in other cultures and other countries with other people.

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Have you looked into this deeply? I've talked with a number of Native American chiefs or shamans

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00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:19,520
who've come to me and said this guy is finding out what we've known for centuries. Yes, these

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beings exist. They're part of the pantheon of spirit entities. Yes, they do cross over. Yes,

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we know that UFOs, yes they are people are sometimes taken up into them when we're going to connect

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with the sky. No big deal. That's the critical difference. In other words, for the western mind,

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the spirit world and the physical world, we tend to keep them separate. But for Native peoples,

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they're not separate. I've never said that these are literally extraterrestrial. I have said they

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seem to come from another dimension. They seem to cross over and appear in our material world. There

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00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:04,400
are physical findings that occur that are corroborative. But I've never said this is a purely material,

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literal phenomenon. Do you have some patients, experiences who have taught you more or been

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more powerful in the way they describe the experience than others? One experienced said,

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you know, not only are we not alone, we are really not alone.

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And this man would agree, but only because he believes that the abduction experience is literally

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in the mind of the abductee. This is a normal process. It's a normal process because the sense

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of a presence is built into the brain itself. The experiences are real. We know if they're

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generated within the brain, it's their explanation for how they got there that we would debate someone.

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The quest to understand the abduction experience as a real phenomenon, but not as actual alien

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abduction, is part of what Dr. Michael Persinger is pursuing in his university laboratory in

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Sudbury, Canada. In his research facility, Dr. Persinger takes patients on journeys of the mind

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that reproduce many of the experiences reported by abductees. By stimulating deep areas of the

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human brain with electromagnetic fields, Dr. Persinger believes that he can recreate parts

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of the abduction experience. The right hemisphere in most individuals is specialized for spatial,

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emotional patterns and experiences. And it also contains a right hemispheric analog of the sense

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of who you are, your sense of self, your body image, and the emotions that go with it. If you

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stimulate that right hemisphere at certain times, you can have the experience of something

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00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:53,440
increasing in terms of emotional significance and suddenly engulfing you and penetrating into

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your awareness. It's equal alien and it feels like an entity or a presence that's not you and from

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some other dimension. Got it. Okay, is that comfortable? Yeah. Working with student volunteers,

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Dr. Persinger is trying to map the actual way the human brain creates the feelings

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and images associated with abduction.

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What we're doing right now is monitoring the EEG of the subject and what we're doing

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is applying magnetic fields across the brain, very subtle magnetic fields, complex magnetic fields,

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in order to induce very specific experiences.

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I noticed that you said you had the sense of a presence that someone or something was there.

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I felt really scared and again the same sort of tingling sensation in my right hand but not

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as much as the first half but fear the second time through. If you felt you said the sense of a

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presence, can you describe it? Was it on one side or the other or? It was this side.

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All right, mostly on your right side? Mostly but it wasn't a frequent sensation.

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Okay, could you describe it or was it just a feeling? It was just a feeling. And you also

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endorsed the item I felt as if I have left my body or was detached from my body. That was during

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the first half. In the first half of the experiment I felt like I'm not quite sure if it was near

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the beginning, middle, end but I felt like I was somewhere else. Well, today you saw a young woman,

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00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:51,200
normal young woman, experience fear and a sense of presence because we applied a weak complex

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00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:57,440
magnetic field over an area of her brain that in all of us can produce the sense of an entity,

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00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:03,440
the sense of a presence. This experience occurs because it's contained within our brains. In

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many respects this sense of presence is your other self, the right hemispheric representation

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of your sense of self. You may attribute it to a god or to an alien, depend upon your culture

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but that comes from the brain itself. We simply accessed it.

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He may be able to create some of the phenomena, the lights, the trauma, the distress but he can't

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create the whole complex narrative that occurs in a fleshed out abduction experience. It's a much

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reduced kind of brain phenomenon. And the most telling point even beyond that is that there's

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no evidence that in the natural state those kind of electrical phenomena that he shows in the

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laboratory are actually occurring in these cases. Yes, we can generate these experiences in the lab

553
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:55,680
but what about outside of the lab? Well, a number of factors can do it, personal distress,

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00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:01,280
the feeling that there is breaking down of structure around you, social structure,

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the anticipation of noon, the anticipation of the year 2000. Any kind of general apprehension will

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lead to an increase in activity in this area. And there are also environmental fields, the massive

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electromagnetic noise and combinations that are generated in the last 10 years. We now know

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how the capacity to generate these experiences. In fact, it's relatively routine now to find

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in poorly wired houses with a lot of electronic equipment for people to report visitor type

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01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:35,840
experiences and at night between two in the four in the morning if the right kinds of conditions

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01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:42,080
are about such as personal stress, that stimulation all those portions of the brain can release these

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01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:47,760
images into awareness with such intensity. They're more than a dream. They appear to be real. I think

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01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:52,560
that's certainly possible that you can tamper with someone's electronic fields or brain waves and

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make them see things. But I really believe there's a much simpler way to get somebody to believe

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01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,960
they're abducted just hypnotize them, tell them you're an expert and say you've been abducted.

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I think that's really all it takes. There is one very important element in nearly every abduction

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experience. It's the abductees memories of alien rape and reproductive experimentation.

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For the Allagash 4, it forms the core of their abduction experience.

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It could have been a spaceship. It could have been some laboratory somewhere. I don't know what

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it was and I remembered seeing Jack under a light, a bright light coming from above. I recall

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lying on my back not being able to move anything except my eyes. I remember I could look with my

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01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:50,880
eyes. He was completely naked and there were these creatures that were standing around him

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and they were examining him. My first impression was that they looked like bugs or insects.

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They had fingers. It didn't have an opposing thumb but the digits themselves could move in a way

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where they could oppose one another. They had its fingers around my wrist. It was holding my arm up

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and it had a long thing with this sharp looking thing at the end and all I could think of is this

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is going to hurt. They probed my face, my nose, they opened my mouth, they probed my mouth and then

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01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:31,600
they went down to like the blower part of me. They stuck this thing on my penis and then they

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stepped away. It felt like I was urinating and it felt like I was ejaculating and it was horrifying.

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I was laying on this table like I was getting a physical examination. You know, I felt like a

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01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:50,960
guinea pig in a lab and I got a clear impression that if I didn't cooperate with these things,

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I was going to be dead and then they turned me over under my stomach and I remember them

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01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:03,760
doing something anally. They were stuck something up my anus and I remember thinking,

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God, I hope whatever they're sticking up there they're going to take back out. I had these visions

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01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:15,920
of like sexual images in my head and then once I had an erection these things came in with some

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01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:22,000
kind of device and they put it on my penis and I ejaculated into it and then they stopped. The

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images just turned off into my head and the next thing I remember it, I was back out into this other

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room and Chuck Rack and Charlie Fultz were sitting on this bench along the wall and they were also

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01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:43,360
naked but they were just staring ahead as if they were in a daze. I struggled to lift my head

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and I could see my three friends. They were also nude and they were seated on a bench,

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sort of like they were waiting for something and just staring blankly and I was thinking, help me,

592
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:05,440
get me the hell out of here. I remember being concerned especially about Charlie because

593
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:11,040
they had some sort of device over his chest and this was causing him some discomfort.

594
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:17,280
I remember being concerned about that. I felt as though I had been sexually assaulted.

595
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:27,600
I could identify with how a rape victim would feel. Violated, definitely violated. I just felt

596
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:34,160
like an animal that was captured and experimented with and then let go and they didn't ask my permission.

597
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:40,880
Each one was reliving a real experience with emotion and trauma and each one was reliving it from

598
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:46,400
the situation on the craft where they were sitting or standing. So if you put it all together it was

599
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:55,680
like a hand going into a glove as it were, fit perfectly. This story seemed to be a rational

600
01:04:55,680 --> 01:05:02,000
explanation for the things that I had been experiencing. We were abducted. Hey, I'm happy I

601
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:08,880
got out alive and I didn't really get hurt. But this was not a dream. We were there on the water.

602
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:15,680
Physically this thing was a physical reality. It had to be that's the only explanation that made sense.

603
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:17,600
Sight.

604
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:23,760
Inducting and why? This is the way the data pushes me is that we're dealing with some kind of intelligent

605
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:29,840
being from somewhere else. I don't know what that means. They're not from Nebraska but from what's

606
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:34,000
people are reporting they're undergoing themselves. It would seem that these

607
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:43,440
non-human beings are interested in human DNA, our genetic makeup. They're interested in trying to blend

608
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:49,280
their genetic makeup with ours in some way to create some kind of hybrid species.

609
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:54,480
In medieval times and in the 17th century and very much during the witchcraft trials people would

610
01:05:54,480 --> 01:06:03,200
tell stories about being visited in the night by demons in QB or succubi who would ride them

611
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:08,640
sexually and rape them and extract their vital bodily fluids and so on. And I think some of the

612
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:15,920
narratives we're seeing are very similar. But that explanation is inadequate says Terry Matthews

613
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:22,000
as an explanation for the pain and humiliation of her very real abduction experience.

614
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,960
It was pure instinct.

615
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:29,120
I was surviving at that point.

616
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,000
I was sure I was going to die.

617
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:44,160
For sightings, Terry has agreed to undergo a particularly difficult regression because this

618
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:50,720
one will probe the genetic agenda of her abductors. I want to take you back to an event that happened

619
01:06:50,720 --> 01:07:02,400
to you when you were around 22 years old in about 1970. You were in a car driving near Paris, Illinois.

620
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:11,280
Just feels very peaceful. So you're feeling very nice. The regression that we did with Terry was

621
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:17,840
over an event that happened to her some years ago that we had already done a regression on

622
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:24,560
almost three years ago. And she actually remembered a few other minor details of it that we didn't know

623
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:37,040
before. It's a woman. You mean her human woman? She doesn't look normal. Her eyes are big.

624
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:47,520
She's a hybrid. I know what she is now. She looks strange to me. She looks angry.

625
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:56,400
She has a baby. And I look down and I'm holding the baby. She must have put it in my arms.

626
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:02,000
The baby looked human, although it looked amitiated. Like it hadn't eaten well.

627
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:09,920
It was slightly human pink, but mostly gray. It had a face like a human except the eyes were very

628
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:16,720
large. And despite the fact that the baby was maybe one or two months old wrapped in a blanket,

629
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:28,400
and it was handed to me to hold, its eyes were more wise than that of a regular infant.

630
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:34,640
They curl in to be held. This hybrid baby did not. It continued to stare at me.

631
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:39,040
Well, when you were holding the baby, did they want you to hold the baby in any

632
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:51,840
particular way? I felt milk leaving my body. What happens next? I don't want her to, but she's taking

633
01:08:52,240 --> 01:09:01,280
the baby away. When they took her, the baby that she was feeding away, she wanted to follow

634
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:08,320
this woman who had the baby. It was a very traumatic thing. They told me it was mine,

635
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:16,880
and I didn't believe them at the time. But I kept feeling the loss of it when the adult hybrid

636
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:24,000
woman took it out of my arms. I cried. At least I wanted to cry. I wasn't able to cry, but that

637
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:33,840
grief was so deep in me, and I never completely understood that. She is taking the baby from me,

638
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:46,000
and I feel anger. Anger than because she doesn't care for this baby. It's not like she's her mother.

639
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:53,520
All the way up. You can open your eyes if you want. She was kind of reliving it all over again,

640
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:57,840
and she remarked afterwards what a strong emotional reaction she was having,

641
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:04,000
and how she was very much involved with the sequence of events that was occurring to her

642
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:10,080
all over again. I could have gone my whole life and not redone that again. Sorry about that.

643
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:16,480
I thought I'd enjoy it. You know?

644
01:10:16,480 --> 01:10:22,000
Well, that's what you sort of said. But the emotions really weren't there, which is sort of why I asked you.

645
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:23,840
No, they were there. That was the problem.

646
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:30,320
When I think about these hybrid children, this is when I really get choked up, because

647
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:36,720
they are the true victims. Because what's being bred out of them is what's in us,

648
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:45,680
our ability for compassion, our ability to feel, to love. They have to relearn it through us.

649
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:51,840
Terry Matthews is now leading as normal and as good a life as she has probably ever led,

650
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:57,280
and is happier now than I've ever seen her, and is getting on with her life,

651
01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:00,560
even though she is absolutely and positively an abductee.

652
01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:09,680
The whole setting of hypnosis has a sexual nature to it. I am a powerful hypnotist. You are a

653
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:15,920
subject. I am going to put you into a state where I can control your will. That is very seductive in

654
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:22,400
itself. If you decide to surrender your will, we have colluded in a seduction. It's not surprising

655
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:27,280
after a while that something sexual would emerge from that, and that's what's happened time after

656
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:35,680
time after time. Look me right in the eyes, Leaveshift. Right in the eye. If you can really kill my head.

657
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:50,160
What it boiled down to as I started to look at the methods used by the research

658
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:58,000
was hypnosis. What I found was several centuries worth of research that suggested that this had

659
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:03,680
been going on since the dawn of consciousness, that people had been undergoing trance states and

660
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:08,560
recovering memories about strange things that happened to them. Many would say that hypnosis is

661
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:15,280
just a way, the opening of a door, so that a story can walk through it. But you're saying that hypnosis

662
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:19,200
is creating the story that walks through the door. Yes, it definitely opens a door that a story can

663
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:24,880
walk through, but the story that walks through, in my opinion, is complete fantasy. The story that

664
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:31,200
comes up is completely dependent on the hypnotist and the predisposition of the person to believe,

665
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:38,480
the subject, to believe what the hypnotist already believes. Now, an opportunity to decide for yourself.

666
01:12:38,480 --> 01:12:42,560
Danny Ehrens, the only member of the Ehrens family who does not have memories of an alien

667
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:47,440
abduction experience, has agreed to allow sightings to televised his first hypnosis session.

668
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:52,560
We believe that what you're about to see is a television first. Now, as you watch, keep in

669
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:59,680
mind the expert's concerns about hypnosis, but also ask yourself, is what Danny experiences real?

670
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:09,280
What Dan can expect from his first encounter is a general exploration into his experiences,

671
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:16,080
helping him to remember more vividly the aspects which he already knows consciously,

672
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:22,080
plus hopefully triggers some further recollections which may provide answers for his own

673
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:29,040
questions, his own puzzlement. Something obviously happened to my parents and my sister,

674
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:35,600
and they know I'm just the only person left that hasn't thought about knowing that.

675
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:42,080
Just been a little scared too, I guess. I may know something that they don't,

676
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:45,680
and I may not know anything at all. I'm really nervous about him going

677
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:53,360
into regression because I know how much it bothers him, even whenever Dan and I

678
01:13:55,040 --> 01:14:02,000
get into a heavy discussion about these beings because it's too emotional for him.

679
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:06,320
He's a very sensitive person.

680
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:13,520
Danny was three. On the night his parents believed the family was first abducted by alien forces.

681
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:20,320
He has no memory of that night, but ever since then, Danny has had a recurring dream about a

682
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:25,840
strange figure threatening his family. John Carpenter believes that this recurring dream

683
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,640
should be explored in Danny's first hypnosis session.

684
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:44,240
Danny has asked his mother and his girlfriend to sit in on his hypnosis session.

685
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:50,720
Good to see you again. All right, well, I understand that you've had some

686
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:55,920
interesting experiences or something. The family has given me a little bit of background on it,

687
01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:01,040
but I'd like to hear from you exactly what you think might be a little different in your life

688
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:09,120
that we might need to explore. Well, we talked about some a recurring dream that I had since I

689
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:15,360
was a child. John Carpenter has never met Danny before today, so there is a preliminary interview

690
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:21,360
before the actual hypnosis begins. Do you ever have any peculiar marks or

691
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:29,440
verses or cuts on your body? Yes, one time that I really remember. I can remember waking up one

692
01:15:29,440 --> 01:15:38,480
morning and I went to the bathroom and noticed that I had a spoon shape mark on my left inner thigh.

693
01:15:38,480 --> 01:15:45,760
I told my father about it that morning, and he had also had one. About how old were you at that time?

694
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:52,560
This has been a few years ago. After an hour-long interview, Carpenter spends time explaining the

695
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:58,160
hypnosis process, trying to address all of Danny's fears about what might happen once he goes under.

696
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:06,000
I don't have any expectation that you should have any kind of bizarre UFO experience. I mean,

697
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:11,280
even if the rest of your family does have those experiences, that does not mean that you do or

698
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:17,120
should or ought to. It would actually be okay with me. Right. But just to let you know, you may

699
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:23,280
feel a little pressure here. Mom, dad, sister, you know, it's like, actually, you know, I don't feel a

700
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:31,520
lot of pressure. Good. Any other questions about hypnosis or anything? Just don't make me look like a

701
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:38,880
chicken. Why don't you get yourself comfortable there? The second phase of the session begins.

702
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:44,880
For the next 30 minutes, Carpenter helps Danny descend into a state of total relaxation.

703
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:52,560
Go ahead and close your eyes now. This is not a sleep state. Danny is relaxed, but still conscious

704
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:59,760
of everything going on around him. We can travel back through time. Carpenter begins the progression

705
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:07,200
by taking Danny back to his childhood. Way back to when you were about five years old.

706
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:13,680
You can begin to describe what your room is like when you were five, six years old,

707
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:22,080
somewhere in that time. Posters. Posters. And the posters are of why.

708
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:30,400
This regression session will last more than two hours. It is a slow, painstaking process

709
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:36,800
that we've condensed down to the key moments. Where exactly are you when that dream begins?

710
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:51,520
Where am I? I hear a noise. What does it sound like? Like a can dropping. And where does that sound

711
01:17:51,520 --> 01:18:00,080
seem to come from? The garage. Something's in the garage. Uh-huh. What do you feel at this point?

712
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:05,760
Scared. What do you want to do about it?

713
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:19,040
I don't want to look.

714
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:25,200
You want to go look.

715
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:29,760
What do you say, Dan?

716
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:36,160
I don't want to look.

717
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:45,120
What happens now? Do you recognize where you are?

718
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:51,120
No.

719
01:18:55,520 --> 01:19:00,080
Never see anything like it.

720
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:06,000
It's all stony.

721
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:11,520
There's two of them standing there.

722
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:22,000
Real log figures. Big head. Big head?

723
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:24,000
Huh.

724
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:33,840
And dark eyes. Dark eyes. Here they come.

725
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:43,920
How does that feel?

726
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:47,520
It's scary.

727
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:54,960
What color hair does he have?

728
01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:03,520
He don't have to wear. No hair. He should be able to see his ears real well.

729
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:10,800
He don't have any ears. No ears?

730
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:21,520
Does he have a mouth? Like a coin slot. Like a coin slot. He's got so many

731
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:33,920
head. What does it remind you of? A stick. Like a stick. A shiny. Shiny stick.

732
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:37,920
What did it remind you of?

733
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:47,920
Like a wand. He's making it move in front of him.

734
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:51,040
And does it seem to do anything?

735
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:54,080
Just in the back of my head.

736
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:58,560
Uh huh. What does it feel like?

737
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:05,040
It hurts. It's a hurt.

738
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:14,160
After more than two hours under hypnosis, John Carpenter slowly begins to bring Danny back to full consciousness.

739
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:20,160
We've worked really hard. And I'm going to bring you slowly back.

740
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:43,840
20, 19, 18, 17, drifting back. 16, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10, halfway, 9, 8, 7.

741
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:57,920
Everything's fine. 6, 5. Remembering everything. 4, 3, 2, and 1. And slowly you can just re-orient

742
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:07,040
yourself to the room and just stretch and relax and just become comfortable.

743
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:21,360
Dan, I think your mom knows exactly what that feels like.

744
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,280
And that wasn't a dream, was it, Dan?

745
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:34,880
No. How long does it seem like it's been, by the way, that you've been laying there?

746
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:40,480
Very 15 minutes.

747
01:22:42,480 --> 01:22:44,880
15 minutes? Why two hours?

748
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:49,680
Everyone here could testify it's two hours.

749
01:22:53,840 --> 01:23:01,680
At the end of the session, Danny left abruptly and later told the sightings team he was too upset to talk about his experience.

750
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:06,480
It wasn't until three weeks later that he agreed to do a short interview.

751
01:23:08,480 --> 01:23:12,480
If this never happened to you, you're fortunate.

752
01:23:22,480 --> 01:23:26,480
I don't wish it upon anybody. I don't think anybody should.

753
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:55,680
People out there who just watch TV and just think this is entertainment and interesting and then they think people are just making it up and it's a bunch of hooey, that is something which they will not say if they sat through these sessions and actually felt these people's confusion and trauma and absolute panic at times over what they're experiencing.

754
01:23:55,680 --> 01:24:00,880
They didn't want it, they didn't need it, and yet they find themselves deeply involved in this phenomenon.

755
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:22,880
In the front yard, three insects, ants, about four feet tall, largely dragged from my house along with my mother by some men. My mother was dragged up onto the surface into an elevator screaming in terror and someone said to me, don't worry, we won't hurt her.

756
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:31,280
Three objects in the sky. Is this possible that this could have happened to me?

757
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:45,280
This vivid, nightmare-ish account is typical of those routinely experienced by alien abductees. Yet these dreams were experienced by the same man who is now a leading critic of the abduction phenomenon.

758
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:51,280
Tell us about the dreams that you had that made you think you might have been an abductee. How old were you?

759
01:24:51,680 --> 01:25:03,680
I had three dreams when I was about four to five years old that stayed with me my entire lifetime. I always thought about them, they were always in the back of my mind, I always just chalked them up as bad dreams.

760
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:17,680
As an adult, I had several very unusual episodes where I awoke in my bedroom, was fully awake, completely unable to move. Into the room came several beings, stood around the bed.

761
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:28,080
At one point one of them actually climbed on the bed. I could feel the weight of the being on the mattress, I could hear the mattress springs go down, I found it hard to breathe.

762
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:40,080
At that point I began to become terrified. I started to struggle. A voice said, he's waking up, we'd better go. The beings walked out of the room, my bedroom door slammed and I was immediately free.

763
01:25:40,480 --> 01:25:48,480
How did you encounter Dr. Cohn the notion of abduction and how were you introduced to it in the first place?

764
01:25:48,480 --> 01:25:56,480
I was first exposed to the idea of abductions by walking into a bookstore and seeing a display of Whitley Stryber's book Communion.

765
01:25:56,480 --> 01:26:06,480
I was riveted by that picture on the cover, the alien. That made me wonder, could it actually be that what I was experiencing was abduction?

766
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:18,880
That launched an eight year quest for me to discover what this phenomenon was all about. I read every UFO book I could find, I read every book on paranormal phenomenon I could find.

767
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:26,880
I began to search through the psychiatric literature for anything that related to these kind of experiences.

768
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:37,280
When did the data start to demonstrate for your satisfaction that abduction certainly hadn't happened to you?

769
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:43,280
At the time that I was doing this, I was also on staff at several psychiatric hospitals.

770
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:51,280
Two of the units I was working on had many patients who were recovering memories of satanic ritual abuse and recovering many multiple personalities.

771
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:57,680
We used to have conversations about these people and their memories and how the memories were recovered.

772
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:09,680
It wasn't long before I started putting two and two together and saying, you know, we have different populations of people recovering different kinds of memories, but the people are the same, the techniques are the same, and the results are the same.

773
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:15,680
Could there be something going on here other than what people are saying is going on?

774
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:28,080
Dr. Cohn's recantation of his abduction experience isn't unique. In fact, for the first time on television, one key person involved in the Allagash case confesses that he has serious doubts.

775
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:40,080
I'm the only one that does not believe that I was either hypnotized or on board a spaceship or probed by aliens.

776
01:27:40,480 --> 01:27:54,480
One of the twins told the rest of us about a dream that he had about how he was in some sort of harness on board this spaceship with humanoid beings probing him.

777
01:27:54,480 --> 01:28:02,480
And the rest of us, the three of us were on a bench naked in a zombie state unable to come to his aid.

778
01:28:02,480 --> 01:28:08,480
This was a very vivid dream that he shared with all of us prior to the hypnotic investigation.

779
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:16,880
And I noticed upon reading Ray Fowler's book sometime later that this dream became the format for everyone's hypnotic testimony.

780
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:32,880
I don't really understand Chuck's viewpoint sometimes and I don't really know what to make out of it.

781
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:39,280
When he did his hypnosis sessions, he seemed to recall some of these things. They're in Ray's book.

782
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:46,280
Now, if he didn't think that he was abducted, why didn't he just say so?

783
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:53,280
Most abductees who have had this experience would rather that the experience was of a psychological nature.

784
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:58,280
But when they actually come to the conclusion that this may have happened, it's a different story.

785
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:02,680
They would still rather not believe it happened. Possibly Chuck feels this way himself.

786
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:11,680
I don't believe in abduction at all. I believe that there has been some contact, limited contact, between aliens and human beings.

787
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:20,680
But I don't think that there's any kind of hostility or menacing kind of activity that an abduction would imply.

788
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:28,080
I think that the Wieners and Charlie Faults were greatly influenced by the media.

789
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:38,080
If I was hungry for media attention, I can think of quite a few other ways to get it besides claiming to be abducted by aliens.

790
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:45,080
The last thing I would want to do is bring attention to myself in a way that is going to cause grief.

791
01:29:45,480 --> 01:29:53,480
Have people disbelieve me? Have people think I'm a wacko? Have people call me a liar?

792
01:29:53,480 --> 01:30:01,480
Every negative thing in the book comes with this. Why would anyone in their right mind deliberately bring that on themselves?

793
01:30:01,480 --> 01:30:02,480
I don't think so, no.

794
01:30:02,480 --> 01:30:11,480
I feel very comfortable that if the same type of evidence that we have collected for the reality of the allogash abductions

795
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:18,880
was collected on some criminal activity that you could actually put a person in jail.

796
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:24,880
But because of the bizarre nature of the case, it's not enough. People really want proof.

797
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:30,880
And people often ask me, why are you so interested in this?

798
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:34,880
And my usual response to that is, why are you not interested in this?

799
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:43,880
What could be more important than the possibility that we're being visited by some kind of beings, entities, energy, intelligence, whatever you want to call it,

800
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:48,880
that is new to our acceptance experiences?

801
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:59,880
But until the aliens land on the proverbial White House lawn, the reality of abduction will never be proven to the satisfaction of mainstream science.

802
01:30:59,880 --> 01:31:06,880
Does that mean that the phenomenon doesn't exist? Well, abduction may not be your reality, but it is someone else's.

803
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:13,880
And for them, the suffering, the fear, the prospect of a lifelong struggle to understand why is all the proof that's necessary.

804
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:17,880
For this special edition of Sightings, I'm Tim White.

805
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:33,880
What?

806
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:42,880
This is Earthscan.

807
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Scanning coordinates for this report.

808
01:31:47,880 --> 01:32:03,880
It's very interesting looking at who killed the major political figures of the 60s and to an extent some of the ones later.

809
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:13,880
John Jav Kaye, 1963, Martin Luther King, 1968, Robert Kennedy, 1968.

810
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:27,880
And if you look at the major assassinations, the person who attempted to kill the Pope, 1981, the person who did kill John Lennon,

811
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:35,880
who attempted to kill President Reagan in the early 80s, 1981, they are all described in the same way.

812
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:42,880
They're all described as lone nuts, implying they're acting alone.

813
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:49,880
They are unhinged because nuts, nutters, don't go around shooting people.

814
01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:56,880
Well, perhaps nutters do go around shooting people, but the implication is they are of no consequence and significance.

815
01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:08,880
But of those six people, seven people have just mentioned, is it really conceivable that all of them behaved in the way that we are told that they did?

816
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:15,880
For the reasons that would apparently be applicable to a lone nut? I think not.

817
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:20,880
If you look at the results of these people's deaths, what happened afterwards?

818
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:26,880
Jav Kaye was attempting to pull the American military out of Vietnam.

819
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:37,880
He was also going to revert the issue of American currency from the Federal Reserve Bank, which incidentally in America is a private corporation,

820
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:43,880
as Barclays Bank is in this country, National Westmasters, a private bank owned by stockholders.

821
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:50,880
So the Federal Reserve Bank in America is a private bank owned by stockholders, but they issue the currency in America.

822
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:55,880
President Kennedy was in 1963 trying to revert that to the US Treasury.

823
01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:58,880
She is a government department.

824
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:01,880
And look what happened as a result of his death.

825
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:09,880
Involvement in Vietnam, America goes through ten years of terrible problems.

826
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:13,880
Look at Martin Luther King, what he was achieving.

827
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:16,880
We will never know what he could have achieved if he hadn't died.

828
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:20,880
Robert Kennedy could well have taken the presidency.

829
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:24,880
1968, that would have meant Nixon couldn't have got in or wouldn't have got in.

830
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:28,880
Would history have been significantly changed? I think it would have been.

831
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:37,880
Now to then say, there must have been forces out there trying to control this, is I think stretching credibility just a little too far.

832
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:41,880
It may well have been people at the time who wished those individuals removed,

833
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:46,880
but had no real thought of what could have happened much beyond that.

834
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:57,880
And what happened in the future was always going to be a random event, a random choice, random events to determine the future.

835
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:00,880
We can't tell what's going to happen in the next ten years.

836
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:03,880
We can think, well we'd like to see in the next ten years.

837
01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:11,880
These groups of people, powerful people, meeting together in secret and deliberately in secret,

838
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:19,880
because one of the people attending the Bilderberger conferences, these groups of people, there's a Council on Foreign Relations in Britain,

839
01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:24,880
the Bilderberger group, which is basically Europe and America,

840
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:29,880
the leaders of military, political, economic and media will get together.

841
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:33,880
The trilateralists just include Japan into that group as well.

842
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:42,880
If you look at the meetings, prominent attendees at these meetings are owners of media groups,

843
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:50,880
like Conrad Black, who is the chairman of the Hollinger Corporation, which owns the Daily Telegraph in this country.

844
01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:55,880
Many Canadian newspapers, a Canadian company, as well as the New Statesmen.

845
01:35:55,880 --> 01:36:02,880
You'd think that you'd see a mention in the Daily Telegraph that their chairman had been attending an important meeting with presidents,

846
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:08,880
prime ministers, financiers from countries throughout Europe and Japan.

847
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:13,880
You ring up the Telegraph and ask them, tell us about the Bilderberger corporate, Bilderberger group meetings.

848
01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:18,880
They say, we have no record of this company, we have no record of any meetings.

849
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:23,880
If what they're discussing is of such benefit, why the secrecy?

850
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:26,880
But they never answer that, so I can't hide it.

851
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:29,880
Report and...

852
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:31,880
This is a scan.

853
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:35,880
Scanning coordinates for this report.

854
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:59,880
It was when they came forward, when they came forward, when they came forward,

855
01:36:59,880 --> 01:37:03,880
when they came forward, when they came forward, when they came forward,

856
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:06,880
when they came forward, when they came forward, when they came forward,

857
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:08,880
when they came forward, when they came forward, when they came forward,

858
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:11,880
when they came forward, when they came forward, when they came forward,

859
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:14,880
when they came forward, when they came forward, when they came forward,

860
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:17,880
when they came forward, when they came forward, when they came forward,

861
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:20,880
when they came forward, when they came forward, when they came forward,

862
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:22,880
when they came forward,...

863
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:25,880
I saw that it was a circle.

864
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:29,880
The target was called before it came down.

865
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:35,880
It looked as this way,

866
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:41,880
I saw, i.e. it overshadowed when there came down.

867
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:45,880
I saw there used to be an elevation in the middle,

868
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:48,880
A cup of milk, as you can say.

869
01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:50,880
It looked like that.

870
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:58,880
So, when it came up from the ground, it came up from the ground, and it came up like this.

871
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:06,880
And it came up completely, and then it turned down, and it was a rumbling thing.

872
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:12,880
When it came down, about four to five kilometers high, it turned up.

873
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:17,880
I absolutely thought it was rumbling over Gothenburg.

874
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:22,880
It was a lie, when it came so far down.

875
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:25,880
I thought it was something rotten or something.

876
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:31,880
But it wasn't, because it was moving up and down over Gothenburg.

877
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:41,880
And I kept following it with my eyes, and it had four small rings underneath.

878
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:44,880
It was the bottom, and it turned against me.

879
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:47,880
And it was a big ring in the middle.

880
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:53,880
And then there was one ring up and one down, and then forward and back.

881
01:38:55,880 --> 01:39:05,880
And I noticed that the rings were darker than the fairies themselves.

882
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:13,880
I noticed that it wasn't like a light, but it had changed.

883
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:15,880
Something like that.

884
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:20,880
It was so beautiful, and it was so regular.

885
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:26,880
All of those rings were exactly from each other, forward and backward, and up and down.

886
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:28,880
And the middle ring was quite big.

887
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:33,880
I know that there is no earth in our world.

888
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:35,880
There is no earth here.

889
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:40,880
None of our humans can move like it did.

890
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:46,880
So fast, and it's the terrible G-forces that are used.

891
01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:48,880
We humans.

892
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:51,880
But they didn't have a drop.

893
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:02,880
The arguments are certainly persuasive in chariots of the gods.

894
01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:07,880
The great mystery of the human condition is, why are we here?

895
01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:13,880
Who are we? What are we? Where did we come from? Where are we going?

896
01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:16,880
I think we're a species with amnesia.

897
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:21,880
We have absolutely no idea what we are.

898
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:26,880
The human present is just a blink of an eye in the story of mankind.

899
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:33,880
There are vast eons of thousands and hundreds and thousands and millions of years of evolution behind us,

900
01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:35,880
and all the links are missing.

901
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:41,880
We find ourselves marooned in the present with almost no knowledge whatsoever about our past.

902
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:48,880
It's an arrogance of scholars that we know ourselves on the basis of 5,000 years of history.

903
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:52,880
What we need to do if we're going to understand who we are,

904
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:58,880
is to penetrate the veil of prehistory, to go back beyond the time when written records survive,

905
01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:02,880
and to penetrate the mystery of ourselves and of our origins.

906
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:07,880
Perhaps then there'll be a way of understanding who we are and why we're here,

907
01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:10,880
and what our purpose on this planet is.

908
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:24,880
A controversial theory has thrown a different light on our very existence and origins.

909
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:33,880
Was Earth visited thousands of years ago by another life form who imparted wisdom and technology to our ancestors?

910
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:40,880
This theory contradicts orthodox opinion and claims that we have been visited by beings from another world.

911
01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:46,880
Thirty years ago, Eric von Daniken challenged science with his controversial book and ideas,

912
01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:52,880
and he is still challenging the world with clues that he contends point to an ancient close encounter.

913
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:56,880
From Egypt to Turkey, from South America to Antarctica,

914
01:41:56,880 --> 01:42:05,880
von Daniken has traveled the world in search of evidence and artifacts that he believes prove his theory that we are not alone.

915
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:09,880
Life may have been found on Mars, but in exploring our own planet,

916
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:15,880
will von Daniken find signs that someone found us before we could find them?

917
01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:31,880
The universe is filled with galaxies.

918
01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:37,880
Our own galaxy is one of these galaxies, in many respects an average galaxy.

919
01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:42,880
Galaxies are defined primarily by what you see, the stars.

920
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:48,880
Our sun is a star, one of a hundred billion stars in our own galaxy,

921
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:53,880
and our star is very similar to the majority of stars.

922
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:59,880
There are differences, but there are a lot of stars, vast majority are similar to our own sun.

923
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:05,880
The universe, an infinite mystery.

924
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:12,880
For thousands of years, human beings have looked to the night sky with awe and wondered, is anybody out there?

925
01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:28,880
At the end of the 20th century, we have finally discovered clues that there may be life on another planet, Mars.

926
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:38,880
If you look at the space program in its entirety, and you think about what the real legacy of our society or culture,

927
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:43,880
civilization for the last 20 years, it has to be the space program.

928
01:43:43,880 --> 01:43:49,880
Here is the first time that we understand where we live in the solar system.

929
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:57,880
The razor sharp eyes of the Hubble telescope pierced the darkness of deep space, looking for more clues that we are not alone.

930
01:43:57,880 --> 01:44:06,880
New stars have been found, stars where liquid water is present, water that could support some kind of life.

931
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:13,880
What percentage of those stars then have planets around them?

932
01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:21,880
What percentage of those stars that have planets around them have planets in the right distance from that star where liquid water could be stable?

933
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:25,880
What percentage of those actually have liquid water on them?

934
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:29,880
What percentage of those actually could have potentially had life start?

935
01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:37,880
And no matter what factors you put, besides all of these, there are so many stars in the universe,

936
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:43,880
that almost certainly somewhere there is another planet not too unlike the Earth that has liquid water on it,

937
01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:46,880
and probably had it for some period of time.

938
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:52,880
So the question is, is that all you need? Do you just need liquid water to get life going?

939
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:58,880
Or is there really some divine intervention required? Is something required to say,

940
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:07,880
and we will will life into being? Are we on Earth alone in the universe, or is there a chance that life is out there?

941
01:45:07,880 --> 01:45:15,880
The significance of going to study for life on Mars is in fact to understand the factors there.

942
01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:22,880
Here's our neighbor planet right next door, ready for us to go and visit, where there's evidence,

943
01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:26,880
the first evidence ever that life started somewhere else besides the Earth.

944
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:33,880
If that's true, then that almost certainly indicates that life is going to happen anywhere that the conditions are right.

945
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:40,880
We got two examples in our solar system, and they both have life. If that's true, we want to know that.

946
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:48,880
In the 1950s, when Eroscebo, a huge telescope, you know, three football fields across,

947
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:55,880
was first put in place just as a demonstration of an idea.

948
01:45:55,880 --> 01:46:08,880
One channel was, one radio station, so to speak, was listened to to see if we could hear a signal from a nearby star.

949
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:19,880
All of us that are in this search, and many more people as well, are interested in, is making contact,

950
01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:25,880
getting a signal from some extraterrestrial civilization.

951
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:31,880
Is it really possible that some living creatures found us before we could find them?

952
01:46:31,880 --> 01:46:41,880
Challenging long-held opinion, Eric von Daniken believes there is new evidence to be explored.

953
01:46:41,880 --> 01:46:47,880
The old world and the new world are not supposed to have been in contact prior to the time of Columbus,

954
01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:54,880
according to orthodox historians, and yet there are extraordinary similarities between the site, for example,

955
01:46:54,880 --> 01:47:02,880
of Teotihuacan, just north of Mexico City, and the Giza Plateau in Egypt, where the three great pyramids and the great Sphinx stand.

956
01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:12,880
In my view, these similarities are connected to an ancient and lost science, and it's a science to do with the meaning of life,

957
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:15,880
the purpose of human existence on this planet.

958
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:22,880
Teotihuacan, Mexico. Almost 12 square kilometers of pyramids and platforms.

959
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:26,880
Experts believe construction started here around 100 BC.

960
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:38,880
When the Aztecs arrived a thousand years later, they were awed by the massive ruins and dubbed Teotihuacan the city of the gods.

961
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:46,880
The people who constructed this vast city possessed a sophisticated knowledge of mathematics, astronomy, and engineering.

962
01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:52,880
Eric von Daniken questions just who taught the builders of Teotihuacan.

963
01:47:52,880 --> 01:48:01,880
This represents a model of our solar system. For every planet, there is a construction of building.

964
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:08,880
There are nine planets in our solar system, all orbiting around the sun.

965
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:13,880
Mercury is nearest to the sun. Pluto is the furthest.

966
01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:20,880
At Teotihuacan, each one of the planets is represented by a building, ruin, or marker.

967
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:26,880
Eric von Daniken believes it is a remarkably accurate scale model of our solar system.

968
01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:37,880
On the hill behind the pyramid of the moon are the ruins of temples which could represent the last planets discovered in our solar system.

969
01:48:37,880 --> 01:48:40,880
Neptune and Pluto.

970
01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:52,880
Halfway around the world is Egypt, one of the oldest civilizations on the planet.

971
01:48:52,880 --> 01:49:01,880
Rising from the mists are perhaps the most famous monuments on earth, and among the least understood.

972
01:49:01,880 --> 01:49:09,880
Dominating the Giza Plateau is the Great Pyramid. Who built this incredible edifice?

973
01:49:09,880 --> 01:49:18,880
Historical documents credit the mighty pharaoh Kufu, also known as kiosks, and his army of a hundred thousand workers.

974
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:26,880
But von Daniken believes an important new discovery may support his own theory of the pyramid's construction.

975
01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:33,880
He believes the real builder was Enoch of the Ethiopian apocalyptic writings.

976
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:49,880
Eric von Daniken believes that Enoch was warned by the gods that a great flood would destroy civilization.

977
01:49:49,880 --> 01:49:55,880
Enoch built the Great Pyramid to protect ancient texts from the rising waters.

978
01:49:55,880 --> 01:50:00,880
He designed secret chambers carved deep inside this mountain of stone.

979
01:50:00,880 --> 01:50:06,880
Were the gods who foretold the coming of a flood, really extraterrestrials?

980
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:15,880
Von Daniken believes the answer may still be hidden inside the pyramid.

981
01:50:15,880 --> 01:50:35,880
The interior of the Great Pyramid is a marvel of engineering skill. A long tunnel leads to the magnificent Grand Gallery.

982
01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:45,880
At the top of the gallery, Von Daniken believes there are more clues that it was Enoch, not Kufu, who built the Great Pyramid.

983
01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:55,880
This is the so-called Kings Chamber. Simply gigantic.

984
01:50:56,880 --> 01:51:03,880
As you can see, there are absolutely no hieroglyphs. Empty.

985
01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:15,880
If Kufu was a tyrant, then the walls should be full of inscription praising himself or his gods.

986
01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:23,880
Von Daniken believes the blank walls of this chamber indicate that the pyramid was not created to serve as Kufu's tomb.

987
01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:35,880
But there's more. Many wonder how the pyramid was built. Could an ancient culture assemble two and a half million giant stone blocks with such perfection?

988
01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:39,880
Less than one tenth of a degree off true north.

989
01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:48,880
Von Daniken believes these mysteries could support his theory that the Great Pyramid was built by Enoch following his warning from above.

990
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:55,880
Teachers who descended from the heavens. If so, where are the secret chambers filled with ancient text?

991
01:51:55,880 --> 01:52:06,880
Only recently has modern technology allowed investigators to attempt to unravel this great mystery, which has challenged scholars and archaeologists for thousands of years.

992
01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:18,880
Some ancient text says that this pyramid was constructed before the Great Flood and many secret chambers could be in here.

993
01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:24,880
Could this shaft maybe lead to one of these chambers?

994
01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:32,880
In 1993, German engineer Rudolf Gantenbrink designed and built a robot to explore this mysterious shaft.

995
01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:37,880
The tiny machine was equipped with a video camera and remote steering. Its mission?

996
01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:43,880
Follow the shaft into the darkness in hopes of discovering ancient secrets.

997
01:52:51,880 --> 01:52:59,880
I had no clear idea what I should find at the end of the shaft. I expected anything but not especially this.

998
01:53:00,880 --> 01:53:06,880
The robot had climbed over 50 meters into what was thought to be merely a symbolic shaft.

999
01:53:06,880 --> 01:53:17,880
But when the journey ended at a stone door with two corroding copper fittings, Eric Von Daniken believes the legend of Enoch may be one step closer to becoming fact.

1000
01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:29,880
What we see in the camera from the robot is just the backside of the stone.

1001
01:53:29,880 --> 01:53:38,880
Gantenbrink believes the stone might have been lowered into place by means of a rope. The copper fittings would have prevented its removal.

1002
01:53:38,880 --> 01:53:43,880
Could this door lead to the secret chambers Enoch was told to build?

1003
01:53:48,880 --> 01:53:54,880
The Great Pyramid

1004
01:53:55,880 --> 01:54:11,880
There are hundreds of references contained in the oldest Egyptian texts which tell us that the gods concealed a great secret at Giza, perhaps under the Great Sphinx or perhaps within the Great Pyramid itself.

1005
01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:19,880
We now know that there is a hidden chamber inside the Great Pyramid and we now know from seismic work that there is a hidden chamber under the Great Sphinx.

1006
01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:31,880
And astonishingly, legitimate scientific work to open these chambers has been delayed for years by a combination of forces bringing and resting on the worst aspects of human character.

1007
01:54:31,880 --> 01:54:44,880
We need to know what lies in those chambers because the ancient Egyptian texts tell us that it will be a matter of enormous importance that could contain a startling revelation about the origins of human civilization.

1008
01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:55,880
Eric Von Daniken suggests that as at Teotihuacan, this could be another tantalizing clue to support his idea that extraterrestrials may have visited Earth.

1009
01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:10,880
The dream of flying has fueled our imagination for thousands of years.

1010
01:55:10,880 --> 01:55:19,880
At the end of the 20th century, we're not only able to fly around the Earth, we're able to explore other planets and other solar systems.

1011
01:55:19,880 --> 01:55:26,880
Is it possible that other intelligent beings share our dream of exploration and have visited the Earth?

1012
01:55:31,880 --> 01:55:45,880
These illustrations were drawn from descriptions in a Hindu text of ancient India dated to the 4th century BC.

1013
01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:51,880
They describe what some scholars believe are giant Vimalas or flying machines.

1014
01:55:51,880 --> 01:55:58,880
In Yugoslavia, images like these were found on a medieval fresco dated to around the 15th century.

1015
01:55:58,880 --> 01:56:05,880
Are these the products of an artist's imagination or are these recordings of actual beings in flight?

1016
01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:17,880
The oldest scriptures of mankind, the ancient Egyptian pyramid texts, the Vedic texts of India, and many other ancient texts from all around the world

1017
01:56:17,880 --> 01:56:26,880
make intriguing references to what sounds like flight, technological flight, not visionary imaginary journeys in the sky,

1018
01:56:26,880 --> 01:56:37,880
but journeys in machines. And I don't think it's wise of us to ignore this huge collection of references to flight coming down to us in the oldest texts of mankind.

1019
01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:44,880
Is it possible that what we're looking at here is a memory of a forgotten episode in human history?

1020
01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:53,880
Is it possible that ours is not the first civilization to make the slow climb to technological development and to the creation of flying machines?

1021
01:56:53,880 --> 01:57:02,880
I believe there have been earlier civilizations, at least one great civilization that was destroyed in an enormous cataclysm,

1022
01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:10,880
the cataclysm that brought the last Ice Age to an end. And it's highly possible that that civilization had reached a high level of technology.

1023
01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:16,880
All these texts suggest that it had reached the technological ability to fly.

1024
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:23,880
The search for clues about flying machines of the ancient world takes us to southern Mexico.

1025
01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:32,880
The ancient city of Palenque is one of the most magnificent of the Mayan culture which flourished all across Central America for almost 600 years.

1026
01:57:35,880 --> 01:57:41,880
This is the burial pyramid of Pachal, ruler of the Mayan world around 600 AD.

1027
01:57:42,880 --> 01:57:50,880
Here, Eric von Daniken has found what he believes are signs that the Mayans may also have encountered visitors from the sky.

1028
01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:57,880
Pachal's ornate sarcophagus is rendered in exquisite detail. The lid is a beautifully carved image of the dead king.

1029
01:57:57,880 --> 01:58:02,880
Eric von Daniken believes this relief might show Pachal in some kind of spaceship.

1030
01:58:02,880 --> 01:58:08,880
He sees that Pachal is seated in the reclined position like an astronaut in a space capsule.

1031
01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:12,880
His hands seem to be gripping the controls, almost like a pilot.

1032
01:58:17,880 --> 01:58:20,880
His nose appears to be attached to a breathing apparatus.

1033
01:58:30,880 --> 01:58:36,880
The design behind the seat could be a representation of flames as if from some kind of rocket.

1034
01:58:39,880 --> 01:58:54,880
In the jungles of Tabasco, von Daniken points to what he believes is a clue that ancient astronauts have indeed visited this culture.

1035
01:58:57,880 --> 01:59:03,880
During this journey, I showed clues for an extraterrestrial visit in the past.

1036
01:59:03,880 --> 01:59:05,880
But I have more.

1037
01:59:05,880 --> 01:59:13,880
60 years ago, a gigantic engraved stone was found in the jungle of Tabasco in Mexico.

1038
01:59:13,880 --> 01:59:15,880
Now you see yourself.

1039
01:59:15,880 --> 01:59:23,880
There is a flying being, to my view, an extraterrestrial floating down from the sky.

1040
01:59:25,880 --> 01:59:32,880
His head has a helmet and with a little imagination, one can even recognize a microphone on his lips.

1041
01:59:32,880 --> 01:59:40,880
His two arms and hands are locking down while on the contrary, his legs towards the sky.

1042
01:59:42,880 --> 01:59:53,880
In this case, I definitely see an astronaut coming down from heaven to teach humanity.

1043
01:59:53,880 --> 02:00:00,880
Nazca, Peru. Another great mystery of the ancient world.

1044
02:00:00,880 --> 02:00:05,880
From the ground, Nazca is an empty, endless desert.

1045
02:00:05,880 --> 02:00:11,880
But from the air, the secret of Nazca is revealed.

1046
02:00:11,880 --> 02:00:19,880
The desert is in fact a tapestry of elaborately carved lines and figures stretching for more than 150 kilometers.

1047
02:00:20,880 --> 02:00:30,880
From the air, you can see the famous figures of the spider, the hummingbird and the monkey.

1048
02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:40,880
Without the ability to fly, experts don't know how the Nazcans gained the perspective needed to create such elaborate figures on such a huge scale.

1049
02:00:40,880 --> 02:00:44,880
There's even disagreement about the purpose of these markings.

1050
02:00:44,880 --> 02:00:49,880
Originally, they were thought to be calendar related or astronomical guides.

1051
02:00:49,880 --> 02:00:55,880
No one really knows, but there is more to Nazca than this ancient menagerie.

1052
02:00:58,880 --> 02:01:07,880
The real mystery in Nazca are lines, gigantic lines looking like airstrips and small lines, long, long, kilometers long.

1053
02:01:08,880 --> 02:01:13,880
One of these lines extends 30 kilometers to the horizon.

1054
02:01:13,880 --> 02:01:22,880
A giant mountaintop has been sheared off, leveled and then scraped clean to create an impressive avenue.

1055
02:01:22,880 --> 02:01:30,880
Von Danakhan's question is, why did the ancient Nazcans need runways for some kind of flying machine?

1056
02:01:37,880 --> 02:01:41,880
This is an amazing mystery.

1057
02:01:41,880 --> 02:01:49,880
Orthodox history has it that the ancients could not fly, that they did not have the technology to fly.

1058
02:01:49,880 --> 02:01:57,880
And indeed, if the ancients did have the technology to fly, then the whole basis of our history is completely up the creek.

1059
02:01:57,880 --> 02:02:08,880
And yet the mystery of Nazca is I can see no way that these figures could have been prepared by a people who did not have the ability to get above them and check the perspective.

1060
02:02:08,880 --> 02:02:16,880
You try and draw a spider in one continuous, unbroken line on an ordinary sheet of paper with a pencil.

1061
02:02:16,880 --> 02:02:20,880
You'll find you can't do it unless you're an accomplished draftsman.

1062
02:02:20,880 --> 02:02:32,880
These figures are drawn in unbroken lines on a scale of hundreds of feet by a people who supposedly did not have the ability to get perspective on what they were doing.

1063
02:02:32,880 --> 02:02:42,880
In my view, the Nazca figures have never been properly explained by scholarship and it's not good enough just because they can't be explained to ignore the mystery.

1064
02:02:42,880 --> 02:02:46,880
We need to get to grips with this, to get to grips with two things.

1065
02:02:46,880 --> 02:02:52,880
First of all, what are they? What are they for? And secondly, how were they done?

1066
02:02:52,880 --> 02:03:03,880
In Nazca, I detect the fingerprints of the same ancient system of knowledge that we find in other parts of the world where an endeavor was made to bring the heavens down to earth.

1067
02:03:03,880 --> 02:03:06,880
I think that the Nazca figures are constellation diagrams.

1068
02:03:06,880 --> 02:03:13,880
There's a great deal of good evidence which suggests that the Nazca spider is a representation of the constellation of Orion.

1069
02:03:13,880 --> 02:03:22,880
And this is very intriguing because the three great pyramids of Egypt we now know are a representation of the three stars of Orion's belt.

1070
02:03:22,880 --> 02:03:35,880
And we also know that in Egypt this system of ideas was connected to the quest for the immortality of the soul and traced back to the time of the gods and to the knowledge and the wisdom of the gods.

1071
02:03:35,880 --> 02:03:46,880
I suspect that that's what we're looking at at Nazca as well, the same fingerprint of the same lost civilization and the same lost science.

1072
02:03:46,880 --> 02:03:56,880
So if the Nazcans couldn't fly, what is the purpose of all these creations? Eric Mondanakhan thinks he has found an answer.

1073
02:03:56,880 --> 02:04:03,880
His theory is that spaceships landed leaving marks on the desert floor when they returned into the sky.

1074
02:04:03,880 --> 02:04:15,880
When the natives wanted them to come back generation after generation, they recreated these lines in tribal ritual, even though the initial visit may have fallen into a semi-forgotten past.

1075
02:04:15,880 --> 02:04:30,880
There is one more clue that the ancient Nazcans may have had a close encounter with extraterrestrials.

1076
02:04:30,880 --> 02:04:37,880
The figure of El Astronoto has watched the skies over Nazca for over 3,000 years.

1077
02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:45,880
Could this strange looking image be linked to a primitive but friendly society and their unearthly visitors?

1078
02:04:45,880 --> 02:05:05,880
To Mondanakhan, only if extraterrestrials returned to Nazca will the mystery of these lines and figures finally be solved.

1079
02:05:06,880 --> 02:05:16,880
If some kind of flying machine or Vimana did visit the earth in ancient times, one can imagine the terror some people may have felt in their presence.

1080
02:05:17,880 --> 02:05:35,880
In Turkey, the eerie landscape is dotted with hundreds of small caves in the soft volcanic rock, but the real mystery of this region can't be seen above ground.

1081
02:05:36,880 --> 02:05:43,880
Perhaps 2,500 years ago, elaborate cities were carved deep under the earth.

1082
02:05:43,880 --> 02:05:51,880
Were these intricate maze-like settlements a primitive air raid shelter to protect the citizens from airborne enemies?

1083
02:05:51,880 --> 02:06:00,880
There are caves and chambers all over.

1084
02:06:00,880 --> 02:06:09,880
One of these cities descends 40 meters underground, through as many as 18 stories.

1085
02:06:09,880 --> 02:06:18,880
This is just one of nearly 200 subterranean cities in the region, perhaps 30,000 people once lived in them.

1086
02:06:18,880 --> 02:06:23,880
A tunnel 12 kilometers long linked two cities together.

1087
02:06:31,880 --> 02:06:38,880
Experts say the underground cities have been used for many different purposes over the last 2,500 years.

1088
02:06:38,880 --> 02:06:44,880
Erich von Danakhan wonders why generation after generation sought refuge beneath the earth.

1089
02:06:44,880 --> 02:06:52,880
If fleeing an invading army or religious persecution, frightened citizens could have hid in the mountains above ground.

1090
02:06:52,880 --> 02:06:57,880
Why did people burrow a labyrinth of subterranean chambers underground?

1091
02:06:57,880 --> 02:07:02,880
What was the true purpose of these cities?

1092
02:07:02,880 --> 02:07:07,880
These people were hiding out, afraid of some enemy.

1093
02:07:07,880 --> 02:07:10,880
But all this doesn't make sense.

1094
02:07:10,880 --> 02:07:17,880
Any enemy could simply come in here or they were sitting in a trap.

1095
02:07:17,880 --> 02:07:22,880
It must have been an airborne enemy.

1096
02:07:22,880 --> 02:07:27,880
An enemy from the sky.

1097
02:07:27,880 --> 02:07:34,880
From Stonehenge in England to hundreds of other sites throughout Europe, Asia and the Americas,

1098
02:07:34,880 --> 02:07:40,880
there are ancient structures made from giant stones called megaliths.

1099
02:07:40,880 --> 02:07:50,880
At least 7,000 years ago, our ancestors created thousands and thousands of stones and they arranged them in lines.

1100
02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:54,880
Striped lines for miles and miles.

1101
02:07:59,880 --> 02:08:04,880
They loom like giant soldiers, marching in formation to the sea.

1102
02:08:04,880 --> 02:08:08,880
These are the megaliths of Carnac in Brittany.

1103
02:08:09,880 --> 02:08:15,880
There is a great deal of controversy about the age of these menhirs in Brittany.

1104
02:08:15,880 --> 02:08:18,880
Here we finally have some proof.

1105
02:08:18,880 --> 02:08:22,880
These stones go into the water and underwater.

1106
02:08:22,880 --> 02:08:27,880
In fact, there is a whole stone circle underwater.

1107
02:08:27,880 --> 02:08:32,880
This finally proves that the stones were here before the water was here.

1108
02:08:32,880 --> 02:08:36,880
And that was 8,000 to 10,000 years ago.

1109
02:08:40,880 --> 02:08:46,880
Now this is the largest megalith ever moved in ancient Europe.

1110
02:08:46,880 --> 02:08:52,880
It's man-made, cut, as you can see.

1111
02:08:52,880 --> 02:08:57,880
Once the whole piece was over 60 years old.

1112
02:08:57,880 --> 02:09:09,880
Once the whole piece was over 60 feet and its weight was 350 tons.

1113
02:09:09,880 --> 02:09:15,880
If these giant stones were moved and arranged 7,000 years ago,

1114
02:09:15,880 --> 02:09:19,880
they would be among the oldest creations on the planet.

1115
02:09:19,880 --> 02:09:23,880
But were they created by human beings?

1116
02:09:23,880 --> 02:09:27,880
At that time in human history, our ancestors were still hunters,

1117
02:09:27,880 --> 02:09:29,880
struggling daily for survival.

1118
02:09:29,880 --> 02:09:34,880
Their tools were primitive and the wheel had not yet been invented.

1119
02:09:34,880 --> 02:09:40,880
How were these thousands of stones transported and what was their purpose?

1120
02:09:44,880 --> 02:09:49,880
And here today, archaeology has no answer for this mystery.

1121
02:09:49,880 --> 02:09:55,880
Well, since we have computer technology and since we know how to fly,

1122
02:09:55,880 --> 02:09:58,880
we might have an answer.

1123
02:10:01,880 --> 02:10:05,880
Eric von Daniken reveals his theory that based on aerial reconnaissance,

1124
02:10:05,880 --> 02:10:09,880
the builders of these alignments had a sophisticated understanding

1125
02:10:09,880 --> 02:10:13,880
of geometry, triangulation and Pythagoras theory.

1126
02:10:13,880 --> 02:10:16,880
But these stones were arranged 4,000 years or more

1127
02:10:16,880 --> 02:10:20,880
before the Greeks supposedly invented geometry.

1128
02:10:20,880 --> 02:10:25,880
Eric von Daniken wonders who taught the megalithic builders such knowledge.

1129
02:10:25,880 --> 02:10:32,880
He believes that extraterrestrials came to Earth and encoded a message in the stones of Carnac.

1130
02:10:32,880 --> 02:10:36,880
What is this message? We just don't know.

1131
02:10:46,880 --> 02:10:50,880
At the bottom of the world, in a land frozen in perpetual ice,

1132
02:10:50,880 --> 02:10:55,880
von Daniken believes there's more startling evidence that beings from another world

1133
02:10:55,880 --> 02:10:58,880
left their mark on the Earth.

1134
02:10:58,880 --> 02:11:02,880
In 1531, Arantius Phineas drew this map of Antarctica,

1135
02:11:02,880 --> 02:11:09,880
but Antarctica was not discovered by man until about 250 years later in 1773.

1136
02:11:09,880 --> 02:11:15,880
How could Arantius Phineas map a continent which didn't officially exist?

1137
02:11:15,880 --> 02:11:20,880
Antarctica is the one continent on the face of the Earth that is truly lost.

1138
02:11:20,880 --> 02:11:28,880
It is buried beneath two miles of ice, and we have absolutely no idea what lies underneath the ice.

1139
02:11:28,880 --> 02:11:34,880
The existence of these ancient maps that show us Antarctica deglaciated is in my view

1140
02:11:34,880 --> 02:11:40,880
an invitation to a great deal of research to what may lie beneath that ice,

1141
02:11:40,880 --> 02:11:47,880
possibly the lost continent that is spoken of in all the myths and traditions of mankind,

1142
02:11:47,880 --> 02:11:53,880
the home perhaps of a great lost civilization.

1143
02:11:53,880 --> 02:11:58,880
What is even more mysterious than Phineas knowing about a continent that hadn't been discovered

1144
02:11:58,880 --> 02:12:04,880
is that Phineas appears to know what Antarctica looked like before it was covered with ice,

1145
02:12:04,880 --> 02:12:07,880
and that was over a hundred thousand years ago.

1146
02:12:07,880 --> 02:12:13,880
How could he have known the continent's shape before it was frozen under a mass of ice?

1147
02:12:13,880 --> 02:12:18,880
The plain fact of the matter is that hundreds of such anomalous maps exist,

1148
02:12:18,880 --> 02:12:26,880
which show Antarctica in fantastic detail and sometimes actually as it looks underneath the ice that now covers it.

1149
02:12:26,880 --> 02:12:31,880
We've only known how the subglacial topography of Antarctica looks since the 1950s

1150
02:12:31,880 --> 02:12:34,880
when seismic surveys were taken across the ice cap.

1151
02:12:34,880 --> 02:12:38,880
These ancient maps show us a deglaciated Antarctica.

1152
02:12:38,880 --> 02:12:48,880
There's a huge mystery here which scholars are not addressing and it cannot be ascribed to coincidence.

1153
02:12:48,880 --> 02:12:55,880
We are left to consider profound questions, questions which force us to reexamine our ancient history.

1154
02:12:55,880 --> 02:13:03,880
Eric von Daniken believes Arantius Phineas drew his map based on an even older source map created by gods.

1155
02:13:03,880 --> 02:13:10,880
Only visitors from the sky, von Daniken maintains, had the sophisticated technology necessary

1156
02:13:10,880 --> 02:13:14,880
to see through the ice to chart the land mass below.

1157
02:13:14,880 --> 02:13:22,880
We don't know, but this map could be evidence that our planet was once surveyed from the air by beings from another world.

1158
02:13:26,880 --> 02:13:32,880
This is the temple of Osiris in Abidos, in central Egypt.

1159
02:13:33,880 --> 02:13:39,880
One of the most mysterious gift has come down from heaven to earth.

1160
02:13:39,880 --> 02:13:43,880
It is the so-called jet pillar.

1161
02:13:43,880 --> 02:13:51,880
It has been suggested that it could be a symbol of fertility or maybe a symbol of eternity,

1162
02:13:51,880 --> 02:13:54,880
but also a symbol of power.

1163
02:13:54,880 --> 02:13:56,880
What power?

1164
02:13:56,880 --> 02:13:59,880
Do they maybe mean electricity?

1165
02:14:00,880 --> 02:14:06,880
Eric believes the jet pillar could have been used as some kind of electrical insulator

1166
02:14:06,880 --> 02:14:09,880
similar to the ones at the top of modern pylons,

1167
02:14:09,880 --> 02:14:14,880
but did the Egyptians have a way to generate electricity in the first place?

1168
02:14:14,880 --> 02:14:21,880
According to von Daniken, a strange, metal-lined vessel was found not far from central Egypt.

1169
02:14:21,880 --> 02:14:27,880
From the outside, this exact replica looks like an ordinary clay jar.

1170
02:14:27,880 --> 02:14:32,880
But when von Daniken pours in a common acidic liquid like vinegar,

1171
02:14:32,880 --> 02:14:37,880
this strange jar generates electricity like a battery.

1172
02:14:39,880 --> 02:14:45,880
Now von Daniken searches for the ways that the ancient Egyptians might have used this electricity.

1173
02:14:45,880 --> 02:14:52,880
In the basement of the temple of Dendera in southern Egypt, his investigation uncovers a possible answer.

1174
02:14:58,880 --> 02:15:09,880
In this basement, there were different crypts, and in one of these crypts, we have fantastic reliefs on the wall.

1175
02:15:12,880 --> 02:15:18,880
Von Daniken thinks something can be seen that may look like a cord which leads to a socket.

1176
02:15:18,880 --> 02:15:24,880
Attached to the socket might be some kind of filament, and on the outside is a transparent bubble.

1177
02:15:24,880 --> 02:15:28,880
Could this be an image of an ancient Egyptian light bulb?

1178
02:15:28,880 --> 02:15:33,880
Von Daniken and his colleagues decided to test this hypothesis in the laboratory.

1179
02:15:35,880 --> 02:15:41,880
We made a model of this electric bulb exactly in the same measurement.

1180
02:15:41,880 --> 02:15:43,880
Would it work? Would it function?

1181
02:15:55,880 --> 02:15:58,880
And it functions. It works.

1182
02:16:07,880 --> 02:16:11,880
This is Chichen Itza in the Yucatan Peninsula of Mexico.

1183
02:16:11,880 --> 02:16:20,880
Dating back a thousand years, Chichen Itza was an important civic center to the Mayan culture that flourished in the tropical lowlands of Mexico.

1184
02:16:21,880 --> 02:16:24,880
The Maya were fascinated by astronomy.

1185
02:16:24,880 --> 02:16:29,880
Their observatory still stands as a testimony to their yearning for knowledge.

1186
02:16:29,880 --> 02:16:36,880
But did the Maya have help from someone or something who understood astronomy far better than they did?

1187
02:16:36,880 --> 02:16:47,880
To examine this question, explore the centerpiece of Chichen Itza, a one-of-a-kind building that tells the story of its own creation like no other structure in the world.

1188
02:16:48,880 --> 02:16:57,880
According to Von Daniken, the legend goes that after the god Kukukan to send it to Earth, he taught the Maya astronomy and mathematics.

1189
02:16:57,880 --> 02:17:05,880
The Mayan calendar incorporated the movements of the sun and moon and is as accurate as our own calendar today.

1190
02:17:05,880 --> 02:17:13,880
Again, how is it possible that the ancient Mayans possessed this knowledge at a time when western man thought the Earth was flat?

1191
02:17:14,880 --> 02:17:21,880
The Castillo is located in a particular way with each of its four corners facing the cardinal directions.

1192
02:17:21,880 --> 02:17:27,880
When the sun rises during the spring equinox, the light strikes the steps at an angle.

1193
02:17:27,880 --> 02:17:32,880
The spectacle this phenomenon creates draws thousands of people every year.

1194
02:17:32,880 --> 02:17:40,880
On September the 21st, the autumn equinox, the shadow serpent rises again into the sky.

1195
02:17:44,880 --> 02:17:50,880
Similar religious legends are found in the South American country of Bolivia.

1196
02:17:50,880 --> 02:17:59,880
At an altitude of over 3,600 meters, descendants of the Inca pay homage to their prostereo, their patron saint.

1197
02:17:59,880 --> 02:18:07,880
But over 1,500 years ago at Tiwanaco, their ancestors celebrated the great god Veracotcha.

1198
02:18:08,880 --> 02:18:19,880
Eric von Daniken believes Veracotcha brought his people sophisticated knowledge of astronomy, mathematics and agriculture.

1199
02:18:25,880 --> 02:18:33,880
Tiwanaco is one of these mysterious sites that we find scattered all around the world that we really know absolutely nothing about at all.

1200
02:18:33,880 --> 02:18:40,880
Because there are no inscriptions that enable us to date the site or that speak of the construction of the site.

1201
02:18:40,880 --> 02:18:47,880
And we have no possible method of dating monuments that are made out of solid stone.

1202
02:18:47,880 --> 02:18:52,880
Therefore when we come to these sites we must use other sciences to try and understand them.

1203
02:18:52,880 --> 02:19:01,880
Now the orthodox scientific historical view on the age of Tiwanaco was established by a scholar called Professor Max Ewell.

1204
02:19:02,880 --> 02:19:10,880
I was astonished to discover that Professor Max Ewell had written his classic study of Tiwanaco which dates the site to about 500 AD.

1205
02:19:10,880 --> 02:19:17,880
And on which all subsequent scholarship has been based without ever having visited the site at all.

1206
02:19:17,880 --> 02:19:25,880
Another science needs to be brought to bear to understand this site and perhaps the most important science of all is astronomy.

1207
02:19:26,880 --> 02:19:34,880
Because so many of these ancient sites around the world are aligned to the heavens connected to the motions of the stars and to the rising points of the sun.

1208
02:19:34,880 --> 02:19:43,880
Another scholar, Professor Arthur Poznanowski from La Paz University in Bolivia spent 50 years studying the site carefully measuring its alignments.

1209
02:19:43,880 --> 02:19:50,880
And he concluded on the basis of its astronomical alignments and I concur the work was done with great precision.

1210
02:19:50,880 --> 02:19:57,880
He concluded that Tiwanaco is at least 12 if not 13,000 years old.

1211
02:19:59,880 --> 02:20:04,880
But Von Daniken believes the real answer may lie in the ruins of Pumapunku.

1212
02:20:07,880 --> 02:20:13,880
I have reasons to believe that Pumapunku once was an earth base of extraterrestrials.

1213
02:20:14,880 --> 02:20:19,880
In Pumapunku we have strange technology from another world.

1214
02:20:20,880 --> 02:20:24,880
Stone building blocks are intricately cut with laser precision.

1215
02:20:24,880 --> 02:20:27,880
They could have fit together like pieces of a puzzle.

1216
02:20:27,880 --> 02:20:31,880
A sophisticated architectural achievement for primitive culture.

1217
02:20:31,880 --> 02:20:38,880
But Von Daniken suggests that there is more evidence that the builders of these two cities had some kind of help.

1218
02:20:39,880 --> 02:20:43,880
One of the blocks has been etched with a perfect groove.

1219
02:20:43,880 --> 02:20:47,880
Today we would use a diamond tip saw to achieve this kind of accuracy.

1220
02:20:47,880 --> 02:20:50,880
A technology only developed this century.

1221
02:20:50,880 --> 02:20:54,880
Here lies yet another mystery few can explain.

1222
02:20:58,880 --> 02:21:07,880
Whoever built Tiwanaco came up with a very ingenious method for holding together the huge stones which they used to build the site.

1223
02:21:08,880 --> 02:21:16,880
They carved a groove in the edge and into this groove they would pour a molten alloy which later hardened into a staple.

1224
02:21:17,880 --> 02:21:24,880
Von Daniken's idea is that extraterrestrials brought these sophisticated technologies down to the people of the region.

1225
02:21:24,880 --> 02:21:29,880
The natives were awed by these strange visitors and worshipped them.

1226
02:21:29,880 --> 02:21:32,880
Experts say Pumapunku was an ancient temple.

1227
02:21:32,880 --> 02:21:37,880
But was it a place to worship gods of mythology or true living beings?

1228
02:21:41,880 --> 02:21:43,880
Today we make a construction like a church.

1229
02:21:43,880 --> 02:21:48,880
We say this is a temple and in here a spiritual being.

1230
02:21:48,880 --> 02:21:51,880
The god in spirit lives in this temple.

1231
02:21:51,880 --> 02:21:55,880
My idea is that Virakosha, but not only Virakosha.

1232
02:21:55,880 --> 02:22:00,880
Other so called gods on other places in our world were extraterrestrials.

1233
02:22:00,880 --> 02:22:06,880
And they were misunderstood as gods by our primitive ancestors.

1234
02:22:26,880 --> 02:22:32,880
Launched in the 1970s the pioneer satellite first explored Jupiter.

1235
02:22:32,880 --> 02:22:39,880
After the meeting with the largest planet in our solar system pioneer continued its journey into deep space.

1236
02:22:41,880 --> 02:22:48,880
Fixed to the side of the tiny spacecraft was a gold disk etched on the disk are chemical symbols,

1237
02:22:48,880 --> 02:22:53,880
a map of Earth's location in the solar system and the figures of a man and a woman.

1238
02:22:54,880 --> 02:23:02,880
The man has his hand raised in a friendly greeting to anyone or anything that might encounter pioneer on its journey into the unknown.

1239
02:23:02,880 --> 02:23:07,880
And man is still wondering, is anybody out there?

1240
02:23:23,880 --> 02:23:39,880
I personally don't think that the answers to these mysteries are alien visitations, alien astronauts.

1241
02:23:39,880 --> 02:23:42,880
Although it's a theory that deserves consideration.

1242
02:23:42,880 --> 02:23:47,880
My own view is that we have lost a whole episode in the story of mankind.

1243
02:23:47,880 --> 02:23:53,880
That we've lost a great civilization way back behind the veil of prehistory.

1244
02:23:53,880 --> 02:24:01,880
And that if we can recover our memory of that lost civilization and learn the truth about it and learn how it was destroyed

1245
02:24:01,880 --> 02:24:10,880
and learn what it knew and understand its knowledge, then we may better understand ourselves and where we're going.

1246
02:24:17,880 --> 02:24:22,880
This is a scan.

1247
02:24:22,880 --> 02:24:26,880
Scanning coordinates for this report.

1248
02:24:26,880 --> 02:24:33,880
The UFO phenomenon has such distinct and obvious national security implications that the military bodies all throughout the world

1249
02:24:33,880 --> 02:24:37,880
have been able to identify the human body and the human body.

1250
02:24:37,880 --> 02:24:39,880
And that's why we're here today.

1251
02:24:39,880 --> 02:24:43,880
And we're here today to find out what the human body is.

1252
02:24:43,880 --> 02:24:47,880
And we're here today to find out what the human body is.

1253
02:24:47,880 --> 02:24:56,880
The UFO phenomenon has such distinct and obvious national security implications that the military bodies all throughout the world

1254
02:24:56,880 --> 02:25:00,880
as far as I'm concerned are probably very much involved with this subject.

1255
02:25:00,880 --> 02:25:07,880
But when it comes to the truth about the subject, especially in the United States, there is a great deal of distraction,

1256
02:25:07,880 --> 02:25:13,880
diversion, and disinformation that seems to be infiltrated into the UFO field.

1257
02:25:13,880 --> 02:25:25,880
It's very difficult for someone who's on the outside of the intelligence community to make a qualified, educated guess as to what particular agency is doing it

1258
02:25:25,880 --> 02:25:27,880
and what are the exact reasons.

1259
02:25:27,880 --> 02:25:36,880
But for the sake of argument, I think it's pretty safe to say that the Air Force has been definitely involved

1260
02:25:36,880 --> 02:25:45,880
through the Air Force Office of Special Investigations and other probably unknown departments in providing disinformation in a public way

1261
02:25:45,880 --> 02:25:52,880
and also in a foreign capacity simply because UFOs are a national security problem

1262
02:25:52,880 --> 02:25:55,880
and the weapons game has to have that go on.

1263
02:25:55,880 --> 02:25:57,880
It's a national security imperative.

1264
02:25:57,880 --> 02:25:59,880
It has been since before World War II.

1265
02:25:59,880 --> 02:26:06,880
Anybody who has studied anything about the intelligence community worldwide knows that there is a lot of...

1266
02:26:06,880 --> 02:26:08,880
Well, it's game playing is what it is.

1267
02:26:08,880 --> 02:26:12,880
It's ways of keeping the truth from the enemy, essentially.

1268
02:26:12,880 --> 02:26:17,880
And in the case of UFOs, oftentimes public awareness is the enemy.

1269
02:26:17,880 --> 02:26:27,880
If more people in a regular capacity of being citizens of the UK or of the United States were to know the real truth about the presence of UFOs

1270
02:26:27,880 --> 02:26:32,880
and exactly what has been going on with them over the years, it would be a security threat.

1271
02:26:32,880 --> 02:26:35,880
I believe that that is not necessarily true.

1272
02:26:35,880 --> 02:26:40,880
I believe that it happens to be the belief of those in power in the military bodies.

1273
02:26:57,880 --> 02:27:11,880
The next morning when I woke up, my eyes were swollen, completely shut, puffed out in red and oozing.

1274
02:27:11,880 --> 02:27:19,880
So my parents, my mother, took me to the emergency room and they took me, sent me directly to an ophthalmologist who grilled...

1275
02:27:19,880 --> 02:27:21,880
He's swarping down that I'd done...

1276
02:27:21,880 --> 02:27:23,880
So have you done a little bit of welding lately?

1277
02:27:23,880 --> 02:27:28,880
You know, I thought I'd been welding without a mask and I'm not a welder, sorry.

1278
02:27:28,880 --> 02:27:33,880
Anyone to know if I'd been anywhere in the world where there was an eclipse and I'd looked at it?

1279
02:27:33,880 --> 02:27:34,880
No, I don't think so.

1280
02:27:34,880 --> 02:27:36,880
My eyes were burnt.

1281
02:27:36,880 --> 02:27:38,880
I started losing hair.

1282
02:27:38,880 --> 02:27:40,880
I got wavy lines on my fingernails and toenails.

1283
02:27:40,880 --> 02:27:42,880
They turned paper thin and peeled off.

1284
02:27:42,880 --> 02:27:44,880
I developed rashes.

1285
02:27:44,880 --> 02:27:46,880
I developed life-threatening allergies.

1286
02:27:46,880 --> 02:27:52,880
Two days later, we all ended up in the backyard and found this mark.

1287
02:27:52,880 --> 02:27:54,880
It was about eight foot in diameter.

1288
02:27:54,880 --> 02:28:03,880
It had a 49-foot swath pathway coming off the side that ended in a perfect arc and that was two feet wide.

1289
02:28:03,880 --> 02:28:10,880
All of the grass within the mark area was brown and laid down, not crushed but just folded over.

1290
02:28:10,880 --> 02:28:15,880
The soil underneath was hard as a rock for a good 12 to 14 feet.

1291
02:28:15,880 --> 02:28:20,880
From that moment on, I slept in the days and at night, I sat up waiting.

1292
02:28:20,880 --> 02:28:28,880
I'd sit by my kid's bed waiting and I didn't know what for, but I knew whatever it was.

1293
02:28:28,880 --> 02:28:31,880
It wasn't going to get my babies.

1294
02:28:31,880 --> 02:28:38,880
I thought I was going insane and then later I hoped I was going insane.

1295
02:28:38,880 --> 02:28:43,880
I was hoping that they could give me a pill to make this all go away.

1296
02:28:43,880 --> 02:28:49,880
All the tests that were run, they found that I was a normal person.

1297
02:28:49,880 --> 02:28:58,880
But I had post-traumatic stress disorder and they told me you can't have post-traumatic stress disorder without having had a cause for it.

1298
02:28:58,880 --> 02:29:04,880
The symptoms are so unique to that particular disorder that it's pretty easy to see.

1299
02:29:04,880 --> 02:29:11,880
There wasn't anything in my life that would warrant such a dramatic reaction by me.

1300
02:29:11,880 --> 02:29:16,880
I was hoping they would say you have a brain tumor and we're going to take it out and you're going to be fine.

1301
02:29:16,880 --> 02:29:21,880
Like that movie Phenomenon, the guy has all that wild stuff and it turns out to be a brain tumor.

1302
02:29:21,880 --> 02:29:27,880
Or you have a brain chemistry imbalance, here's a pill and take this and everything will be fine.

1303
02:29:27,880 --> 02:29:31,880
But no, they could tell me everything that it wasn't but they could not tell me what it was.

1304
02:29:31,880 --> 02:29:37,880
I had an EEG test where they put the wires on your heads if you're epileptic.

1305
02:29:37,880 --> 02:29:42,880
I had six hours of psychological testing. I had an hour of verbal psychological testing.

1306
02:29:42,880 --> 02:29:47,880
I had lie detector voice stress tests. I was interviewed by a gynecologist.

1307
02:29:47,880 --> 02:29:52,880
I was interviewed by physicians at Columbia University in New York.

1308
02:29:52,880 --> 02:29:56,880
They came out and they did testing on the soil.

1309
02:29:56,880 --> 02:29:59,880
And the only thing they could tell me was something really...

1310
02:29:59,880 --> 02:30:10,880
I was an ordinary person with no brain tumors, no problems, no psychological problems other than post-traumatic stress disorder.

1311
02:30:10,880 --> 02:30:16,880
I was an ordinary person who had endured an extraordinarily traumatic event.

1312
02:30:16,880 --> 02:30:22,880
My response to the critics and the skeptics is, well, I don't blame you.

1313
02:30:22,880 --> 02:30:24,880
You're entitled to your own opinion.

1314
02:30:24,880 --> 02:30:30,880
And by golly, if I hadn't seen some of the things that I'd seen, I'd probably feel the same way you do.

1315
02:30:34,880 --> 02:30:36,880
Report acknowledged.

1316
02:30:55,880 --> 02:31:00,880
Welcome back. Well, in 1983, a UFO was sighted over Southampton water.

1317
02:31:00,880 --> 02:31:06,880
Steve Gerrard has an interesting theory as to why it visited this particular area.

1318
02:31:06,880 --> 02:31:11,880
A nice, clear, crispy night, the stars were out.

1319
02:31:11,880 --> 02:31:17,880
And I was actually stood a few hundred yards down where we are now, looking over the water.

1320
02:31:17,880 --> 02:31:22,880
And I was looking in the direction, over towards the woods, over that way.

1321
02:31:22,880 --> 02:31:25,880
And suddenly, it was this orange light appeared in the sky.

1322
02:31:25,880 --> 02:31:30,880
I always said it was the light that was coming from the sky.

1323
02:31:30,880 --> 02:31:35,880
And it was as if it was going down a flight of stairs.

1324
02:31:35,880 --> 02:31:40,880
It would stop, drop a few feet, stop, go along a few feet, stop.

1325
02:31:40,880 --> 02:31:42,880
It was going for about ten minutes it was doing this.

1326
02:31:42,880 --> 02:31:45,880
Then it suddenly stopped in the sky still.

1327
02:31:45,880 --> 02:31:50,880
And I was looking at the sky and I was like, oh, I'm going to be in the sky.

1328
02:31:50,880 --> 02:31:53,880
And I was like, oh, I'm going to be in the sky.

1329
02:31:53,880 --> 02:31:56,880
And I was like, oh, I'm going to be in the sky.

1330
02:31:56,880 --> 02:31:59,880
And then it suddenly stopped in the sky still.

1331
02:31:59,880 --> 02:32:04,880
And suddenly it disappeared over the horizon towards the grain silos in the distance there,

1332
02:32:04,880 --> 02:32:06,880
in the big arcing movement.

1333
02:32:06,880 --> 02:32:08,880
And it just went out of sight.

1334
02:32:08,880 --> 02:32:13,880
And I was really astonished by what that was.

1335
02:32:13,880 --> 02:32:15,880
And since then, my interest has grown and grown.

1336
02:32:15,880 --> 02:32:20,880
And I've now, six years ago, set up the group that I run now.

1337
02:32:21,880 --> 02:32:25,880
Steve's 1983 sighting is not an isolated example.

1338
02:32:25,880 --> 02:32:31,880
Ernie Sears has noted 14 unidentified objects over Southampton in the last 30 years,

1339
02:32:31,880 --> 02:32:35,880
including this one in 1978.

1340
02:32:35,880 --> 02:32:40,880
There was a huge light coming up from the Isle of Wight, which gradually drew nearer to me.

1341
02:32:40,880 --> 02:32:43,880
Not very high up, I estimated about a thousand feet.

1342
02:32:43,880 --> 02:32:49,880
No noise at all, a huge black, vast object, which came right over the top of me.

1343
02:32:49,880 --> 02:32:54,880
Slowly, and then vanished away towards the city.

1344
02:32:54,880 --> 02:32:56,880
What do they want?

1345
02:32:56,880 --> 02:33:00,880
Could it be to gather intelligence about the nearby naval base?

1346
02:33:00,880 --> 02:33:07,880
We've got foley behind us as we stand here, and the base is used by the Marines for training.

1347
02:33:07,880 --> 02:33:10,880
There are large boats there.

1348
02:33:10,880 --> 02:33:13,880
Maybe if we are being visited by other extraterrestrial life,

1349
02:33:13,880 --> 02:33:17,880
then yes, they'd want to know what military capability we have.

1350
02:33:17,880 --> 02:33:22,880
There's a sort of an education program going on, which your program is probably part of.

1351
02:33:22,880 --> 02:33:24,880
You may not know it.

1352
02:33:24,880 --> 02:33:29,880
To get us used to the idea that living cheap by jow alongside us

1353
02:33:29,880 --> 02:33:33,880
are what we would call aliens or species from another dimension.

1354
02:33:33,880 --> 02:33:37,880
Technology seems to be flying at a huge leap and bound,

1355
02:33:37,880 --> 02:33:40,880
and I do often wonder, are we being helped along the way?

1356
02:33:40,880 --> 02:33:42,880
Are we being nurtured, maybe?

1357
02:33:48,880 --> 02:33:54,880
From UFOs, we turn our attention to the spirit world now, and the Pantels in Tumbridge Wells.

1358
02:33:54,880 --> 02:33:59,880
It'll be familiar to regular viewers of the program as we visited the area before.

1359
02:33:59,880 --> 02:34:05,880
We return now to hear of yet more ghostly happenings as we open the file in time.

1360
02:34:05,880 --> 02:34:10,880
The recording was made throughout the house.

1361
02:34:10,880 --> 02:34:13,880
The particular tension paid to three hot spots,

1362
02:34:13,880 --> 02:34:18,880
the sewing room, the children's room, and the master bedroom.

1363
02:34:18,880 --> 02:34:24,880
Several hours of tape were recorded in what seemed like complete silence.

1364
02:34:24,880 --> 02:34:28,880
The recordings were played back in a sound studio.

1365
02:34:28,880 --> 02:34:31,880
The recording was recorded in a studio.

1366
02:34:32,880 --> 02:34:38,880
The recordings were played back in a sound studio, and tape after tape revealed nothing.

1367
02:34:38,880 --> 02:34:43,880
Then, one sound on one of the final tapes spoke to Bart Ellis.

1368
02:34:44,880 --> 02:34:47,880
Right there. Hear that? Hello.

1369
02:34:47,880 --> 02:34:50,880
Play it back. It's going to come up again. It's going to come up again.

1370
02:34:53,880 --> 02:34:57,880
Hello. You hear it now? You hear it's kind of a breathy sound?

1371
02:35:01,880 --> 02:35:04,880
Definitely.

1372
02:35:07,880 --> 02:35:15,880
That's absolutely a paranormal voice, and as far as I'm concerned, that's absolute evidence of life after death.

1373
02:35:18,880 --> 02:35:23,880
Is this the voice of Teodora, or Maria, echoing through the ether of time?

1374
02:35:23,880 --> 02:35:27,880
The answer is as elusive as the identity of the Lady in Black.

1375
02:35:27,880 --> 02:35:31,880
But Ellis says this is just the first rudimentary step in an emerging process

1376
02:35:31,880 --> 02:35:36,880
that will one day allow us to communicate between this world and the next.

1377
02:35:46,880 --> 02:35:52,880
The recording of EVP, so-called electronic voice phenomenon, at the Oliva, Sadobi,

1378
02:35:52,880 --> 02:35:54,880
was an extremely rare event.

1379
02:35:54,880 --> 02:35:59,880
For more than five years, sightings has participated in recording experiments at many haunted sites,

1380
02:35:59,880 --> 02:36:03,880
and in only three cases has any kind of anomalous noise been picked up.

1381
02:36:03,880 --> 02:36:07,880
Those sites are the Oliva, Sadobi, the New Jersey home of Tony Adams,

1382
02:36:07,880 --> 02:36:10,880
and the site of the Heartland Ghost Haunting.

1383
02:36:11,880 --> 02:36:19,880
Recently, the U.S. Geological Survey began predicting the probable locations and magnitudes of earthquakes in Northern California.

1384
02:36:19,880 --> 02:36:22,880
So far, their accuracy rate hasn't been very good.

1385
02:36:22,880 --> 02:36:26,880
And even with state-of-the-art equipment and the best seismologists in the country,

1386
02:36:26,880 --> 02:36:34,880
the USGS doesn't even come close to predicting earthquakes as accurately as one high school science teacher in Hawaii.

1387
02:36:34,880 --> 02:36:41,880
Well, they have to move, and the Earth will grow. The Earth will break, the Earth will vibrate,

1388
02:36:41,880 --> 02:36:45,880
Earth will move, and life will begin again.

1389
02:36:45,880 --> 02:36:52,880
After more than 1,000 years here, Native Hawaiians believe that they have learned to hear the Earth when she spits.

1390
02:36:52,880 --> 02:36:55,880
And they have learned to hear the Earth when she spits.

1391
02:36:55,880 --> 02:36:58,880
And they have learned to hear the Earth when she spits.

1392
02:36:58,880 --> 02:37:04,880
After more than 1,000 years here, Native Hawaiians believe that they have learned to hear the Earth when she speaks

1393
02:37:04,880 --> 02:37:07,880
and to watch the skies for what will come.

1394
02:37:07,880 --> 02:37:13,880
Folklore tells of priests who knew when the rain would fall, the wind would blow, and the Earth would shake.

1395
02:37:13,880 --> 02:37:17,880
They have what we call Huaylona, omens, importance.

1396
02:37:17,880 --> 02:37:24,880
And many of our priests and our elders would look and see these symbols in the sky.

1397
02:37:29,880 --> 02:37:35,880
On Oahu, at Damian Memorial High School, ancient tales of accurate predictions of Earth changes

1398
02:37:35,880 --> 02:37:39,880
captivated high school teacher and religion chairman, Mike Lee.

1399
02:37:39,880 --> 02:37:43,880
For fun, he began to see if he could develop a scientific prediction method

1400
02:37:43,880 --> 02:37:47,880
based on the old ways of the Hawaiian priests, the kahunas.

1401
02:37:47,880 --> 02:37:53,880
The ancient Hawaiians believed that a pillet, the fire goddess,

1402
02:37:53,880 --> 02:37:57,880
was able to cause earthquakes through volcanic eruptions.

1403
02:37:57,880 --> 02:38:02,880
When Lee learned that Pellet's sacred name translates as the Moon in the flames,

1404
02:38:02,880 --> 02:38:07,880
he used a simple computer program to search for connections between the Moon and earthquakes.

1405
02:38:07,880 --> 02:38:15,880
I can take advantage point from the Moon and see where the Earth is at a particular time in history.

1406
02:38:15,880 --> 02:38:18,880
At first, the connection just wasn't there.

1407
02:38:18,880 --> 02:38:22,880
There had to be more to the ancient method than plotting the position of the Moon in relation to the Earth.

1408
02:38:22,880 --> 02:38:25,880
There had to be something Lee was missing.

1409
02:38:25,880 --> 02:38:32,880
I was looking at the data and I wanted to piece together how did the ancient Hawaiian priests

1410
02:38:32,880 --> 02:38:36,880
actually predict earthquakes months in advance.

1411
02:38:36,880 --> 02:38:39,880
He went back to Pellet's name, the Moon in the flames,

1412
02:38:39,880 --> 02:38:46,880
and wondered if perhaps the ancients might be referring to the orange cast the Moon takes on during a lunar eclipse.

1413
02:38:46,880 --> 02:38:51,880
Pellet, the volcano goddess, is seen in the sky during a lunar eclipse.

1414
02:38:51,880 --> 02:38:58,880
And the Hawaiians had the theory that whenever a lunar or a solar eclipse took place,

1415
02:38:58,880 --> 02:39:02,880
regular patterns of earthquakes would follow.

1416
02:39:02,880 --> 02:39:08,880
Lee studied what was happening in the sky during famous volcanic eruptions and earthquakes of the past,

1417
02:39:08,880 --> 02:39:15,880
and was startled to discover a definite pattern between Earth changes and both lunar and solar eclipses.

1418
02:39:15,880 --> 02:39:22,880
On February 26, 1979, we have a solar eclipse taking place over the Pacific Northwest.

1419
02:39:22,880 --> 02:39:28,880
Fifteen months later, we have the eruption in May of Mount St. Helens in 1980.

1420
02:39:28,880 --> 02:39:34,880
And what we see here is the shadow moving from the Pacific Ocean right over Mexico City.

1421
02:39:34,880 --> 02:39:41,880
Sixteen months later, we have almost an eight point earthquake in Mexico City.

1422
02:39:41,880 --> 02:39:46,880
Using a theory based on a thousand year old method and his own modern formula,

1423
02:39:46,880 --> 02:39:51,880
Lee began to see if he could predict future earthquakes the way he had charted historic ones.

1424
02:39:51,880 --> 02:39:54,880
Class, I'm going to show you something pretty exciting.

1425
02:39:54,880 --> 02:39:59,880
One day he came up and he says that he's finally got it and you're reaching down and it's on the board.

1426
02:39:59,880 --> 02:40:05,880
I'm going to predict an earthquake May 5, which is a Friday, 1995.

1427
02:40:05,880 --> 02:40:12,880
In 1995, in front of a small group of amused students, Lee predicted that there would be a quake near Helo in two weeks.

1428
02:40:12,880 --> 02:40:20,880
I pretty much felt like that it was, you know, a try it, a reach, something that was unreachable.

1429
02:40:20,880 --> 02:40:25,880
But the snickering stopped when an earthquake hit the big island within one week of Lee's prediction.

1430
02:40:25,880 --> 02:40:30,880
My reaction to it was, I believe something that should not be believed.

1431
02:40:30,880 --> 02:40:37,880
Since then, Lee has continued to predict the times, locations and magnitudes of earthquakes worldwide.

1432
02:40:37,880 --> 02:40:40,880
And he has an unnerving accuracy rate.

1433
02:40:40,880 --> 02:40:49,880
And no one is more astonished than Lee, that the ancient folktales of his childhood seem to have scientific validity.

1434
02:40:49,880 --> 02:40:51,880
The question is, so what's new?

1435
02:40:51,880 --> 02:40:54,880
What else is new?

1436
02:40:55,880 --> 02:41:04,880
John Keola Lake is a teacher and historian whose chance celebrate the rich cultural gifts of his ancestors.

1437
02:41:04,880 --> 02:41:09,880
Lake believes that Mike Lee is merely reinventing what the ancient Gahunas knew all along.

1438
02:41:09,880 --> 02:41:18,880
They had quite a knowledge on knowing when catastrophes were coming about, when the next earthquake would come.

1439
02:41:19,880 --> 02:41:26,880
Despite the accuracy of Lee's earthquake predictions, mainstream science has not embraced his metaphysically inspired theory.

1440
02:41:26,880 --> 02:41:31,880
How can spirituality exist on the same plane as scientific evidence?

1441
02:41:31,880 --> 02:41:36,880
I think that computers are the modern gods for us today.

1442
02:41:36,880 --> 02:41:38,880
We rely on them in the past.

1443
02:41:38,880 --> 02:41:41,880
The ancient people relied on their belief system and their gods.

1444
02:41:41,880 --> 02:41:47,880
So convinced is he that his method works, Mike Lee recently wrote to President Fujimori of Peru,

1445
02:41:47,880 --> 02:41:51,880
warning him of a potentially life-threatening quake in that country.

1446
02:41:51,880 --> 02:41:57,880
I think if we're going to make any progress in predicting earthquakes here on Earth,

1447
02:41:57,880 --> 02:42:00,880
that we're going to really have to take a serious look at this.

1448
02:42:00,880 --> 02:42:08,880
Lee is frustrated by the fact that more experienced scientists with more powerful computers have largely ignored his earthquake prediction method.

1449
02:42:08,880 --> 02:42:15,880
For the people of Hawaii deeply rooted in the Earth and her mysteries, Lee's predictions are ancient history.

1450
02:42:18,880 --> 02:42:24,880
According to the USGS, there was a moderate earthquake in Peru during the time Michael Lee said that there would be one.

1451
02:42:24,880 --> 02:42:28,880
Lee predicted a 7.2, the actual magnitude was 5.3.

1452
02:42:28,880 --> 02:42:32,880
If you're wondering whether it's time to pack up the China in crystal,

1453
02:42:32,880 --> 02:42:42,880
you can get Michael Lee's upcoming predictions on the World Wide Web at www.damian.edu.html.

1454
02:43:02,880 --> 02:43:06,880
In the year 2014, speed is still an advantage.

1455
02:43:06,880 --> 02:43:09,880
Zero function in juggling the Earth.

1456
02:43:09,880 --> 02:43:14,880
Space precinct, tonight, 10 sci-fi jungle.

1457
02:43:18,880 --> 02:43:20,880
Oh, are you the frog prince?

1458
02:43:20,880 --> 02:43:21,880
Oh, yep.

1459
02:43:21,880 --> 02:43:23,880
And I suppose you want to kiss me?

1460
02:43:23,880 --> 02:43:27,880
I'd rather have a Red Bull liquid stimulation for body and mind.

1461
02:43:27,880 --> 02:43:30,880
Oh, alright, so long as you turn into a prince.

1462
02:43:33,880 --> 02:43:35,880
Cool, we are handsome, aren't you?

1463
02:43:35,880 --> 02:43:38,880
But wait, where are you going?

1464
02:43:38,880 --> 02:43:41,880
Hey, I gotta see if I can find any other princesses around.

1465
02:43:41,880 --> 02:43:43,880
Red Bull gives you wings.

1466
02:43:43,880 --> 02:43:47,880
Wait, where am I gonna find another frog at this time on a Friday night?

1467
02:43:48,880 --> 02:43:50,880
Have you got the hint yet?

1468
02:43:50,880 --> 02:43:55,880
She wants Black and Decker's most powerful turbo dust buster for all those awkward cleaning jobs.

1469
02:43:55,880 --> 02:43:57,880
Only from Black and Decker.

1470
02:43:57,880 --> 02:44:00,880
Do you like scary movies?

1471
02:44:00,880 --> 02:44:04,880
They're all the same, some stupid killer stalking some big breasted girl who can act.

1472
02:44:04,880 --> 02:44:07,880
She's always running up the stairs and she should be going out the front door.

1473
02:44:07,880 --> 02:44:11,880
Don't answer the phone, don't open the door, don't try to escape.

1474
02:44:11,880 --> 02:44:12,880
It's a scream, babe!

1475
02:44:12,880 --> 02:44:14,880
Do rent the ultimate scary movie.

1476
02:44:14,880 --> 02:44:15,880
Can you see me?

1477
02:44:15,880 --> 02:44:16,880
Scream.

1478
02:44:19,880 --> 02:44:22,880
Are you hiding something underneath the hair you have?

1479
02:44:22,880 --> 02:44:24,880
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1480
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1481
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1482
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1483
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1484
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Try it for 14 days and see.

1485
02:44:39,880 --> 02:44:43,880
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1486
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Go ahead, release your hair's true potential.

1487
02:44:47,880 --> 02:44:51,880
This is Mission Control.

1488
02:44:51,880 --> 02:44:54,880
Alert situation in progress. Please respond.

1489
02:44:54,880 --> 02:44:55,880
Damn.

1490
02:44:55,880 --> 02:44:56,880
It's not my turn.

1491
02:44:56,880 --> 02:44:57,880
No, Cébroire!

1492
02:44:57,880 --> 02:44:58,880
Hey, that was...

1493
02:44:58,880 --> 02:45:00,880
Crew, this is not an exercise.

1494
02:45:00,880 --> 02:45:02,880
This is a proximity alert.

1495
02:45:02,880 --> 02:45:03,880
What's going on up there?

1496
02:45:03,880 --> 02:45:04,880
Ah!

1497
02:45:04,880 --> 02:45:06,880
Crew, this is Mission Control.

1498
02:45:06,880 --> 02:45:08,880
Crew, can you hear me?

1499
02:45:08,880 --> 02:45:09,880
Crew!

1500
02:45:09,880 --> 02:45:11,880
This is Mission Control.

1501
02:45:11,880 --> 02:45:13,880
Crew, can you hear me?

1502
02:45:13,880 --> 02:45:14,880
Crew!

1503
02:45:39,880 --> 02:45:41,880
Fine. All I'm saying is...

1504
02:45:41,880 --> 02:45:42,880
Crew, look.

1505
02:45:42,880 --> 02:45:46,880
All I'm saying is, if you want a big Christmas, then you do it.

1506
02:45:46,880 --> 02:45:47,880
I will.

1507
02:45:47,880 --> 02:45:50,880
The tree, the cooking, the shopping.

1508
02:45:50,880 --> 02:45:51,880
Okay.

1509
02:45:51,880 --> 02:45:52,880
Fine.

1510
02:45:52,880 --> 02:45:56,880
For less hassle this Christmas, stock up on a few extras each, visit to Summerfield.

1511
02:45:56,880 --> 02:46:00,880
Buy any of our hundreds of price check offers cheaper at a major supermarket.

1512
02:46:00,880 --> 02:46:02,880
How's it going?

1513
02:46:02,880 --> 02:46:03,880
Great.

1514
02:46:03,880 --> 02:46:05,880
You'll never last.

1515
02:46:05,880 --> 02:46:10,880
You're watching Sightings on the SciFi Channel.

1516
02:46:10,880 --> 02:46:12,880
August 7th, 1996.

1517
02:46:12,880 --> 02:46:14,880
We'll go down in history.

1518
02:46:14,880 --> 02:46:18,880
As the day NASA told the world what many people said, they already knew.

1519
02:46:18,880 --> 02:46:20,880
The world is a world of science.

1520
02:46:20,880 --> 02:46:22,880
The world is a world of science.

1521
02:46:22,880 --> 02:46:24,880
The world is a world of science.

1522
02:46:24,880 --> 02:46:26,880
The world is a world of science.

1523
02:46:26,880 --> 02:46:31,880
The day NASA told the world what many people said they already knew.

1524
02:46:31,880 --> 02:46:38,880
Breathless with excitement, NASA Chief Dan Golden declared August 7th the day we opened the door to other worlds.

1525
02:46:38,880 --> 02:46:44,880
For the first time, a U.S. government official was openly admitting the possibility of life on Mars.

1526
02:46:44,880 --> 02:46:48,880
And it all started with one little rock.

1527
02:46:48,880 --> 02:46:53,880
Antarctica, 1984.

1528
02:46:53,880 --> 02:47:04,880
Just after Christmas, a team of American meteorite hunters had no idea that they had just made one of the most exciting scientific discoveries of the century.

1529
02:47:04,880 --> 02:47:06,880
The day started out very windy and very cold.

1530
02:47:06,880 --> 02:47:12,880
29-year-old Robbie Score, a geologist from the Meteor Lab at the Johnson Space Center, saw it first.

1531
02:47:12,880 --> 02:47:15,880
A rock, glowing green in a sea of white.

1532
02:47:15,880 --> 02:47:20,880
We were on this one ice field, which was the furthest ice field from the Allen Hills.

1533
02:47:20,880 --> 02:47:25,880
There was no scenery. It was basically, it felt like you were out in the frozen ocean.

1534
02:47:25,880 --> 02:47:29,880
The team collected nearly 100 meteorites on their expedition.

1535
02:47:29,880 --> 02:47:31,880
But Robbie remembered finding this one.

1536
02:47:31,880 --> 02:47:38,880
She found it almost by accident while the group was out joyriding on their snowmobiles during a well-deserved break.

1537
02:47:39,880 --> 02:47:41,880
It was just really fun and we were all really excited.

1538
02:47:41,880 --> 02:47:46,880
As we were leaving the areas, when we ran into the rock, it's not so famous.

1539
02:47:46,880 --> 02:47:55,880
It sat in a lab for nearly 12 years before the discovery of something inside the meteorite propelled this hunk of rock into the headlines.

1540
02:47:55,880 --> 02:48:02,880
The topography of Mars, so similar to our own, with its chinks and fissures, riverbeds and mountains,

1541
02:48:02,880 --> 02:48:06,880
has captivated the scientific imagination for more than 100 years.

1542
02:48:06,880 --> 02:48:07,880
At the turn...

1543
02:48:36,880 --> 02:48:38,880
...

1544
02:49:06,880 --> 02:49:08,880
...

1545
02:49:36,880 --> 02:49:38,880
...

1546
02:50:06,880 --> 02:50:08,880
...

1547
02:50:36,880 --> 02:50:37,880
...